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SteveSteve
Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Location: Republic of Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:23 am Post subject: E2 Visa Holder-finding a new job while still in Korea |
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My girlfriend is on an E2 visa at a Hagwon. The Hagwon is beyond terrible. I won't name specific names but let's say it rhymes with "Blunderland". So the question is this: if she is willing to just "run"-will she have to get all new documents in order for her to get a new E2 visa at a Hagwon? (This time, much, much more research will be done, trust.) I am especially worried about the FBI check: does anyone know how to go about getting that while you are still in Korea? (citizenship is American). Any info you could give would be greatly appreciated. Trying to get out of this situation ASAP. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:19 am Post subject: |
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So the question is this: if she is willing to just "run"-will she have to get all new documents in order for her to get a new E2 visa at a Hagwon? |
This is very likely.
There can also be a delay for her obtainign a new visa depending on what happens to her current visa. |
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SteveSteve
Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Location: Republic of Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: FBI background check |
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Does anyone out there have experience with the new FBI background check? I think it requires fingerprints, but I don't know how one would go about getting those here... |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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There are 2 ways to change emloyers in Korea.
1) with the blessing of your current employer (so you can get a LOR and change jobs) - unlikely given her job description.
2) don't give notice and leave the day after payday. Catch a plane/ferry to anywhere outside of Korea, hand in your ARC as you pass through immigration at the airport (canceling the visa), return and begin the job search again.
Option 1 is easy ONLY if your employer is willing to let you go but often will cost you at least a months salary in the way of "unexpected" deductions.
Option 2 is easy (as easy as getting a new visa) but does require a full and complete set of new documents and will require a visa run again (2nd trip out of the country) to get the new visa placed into the passport.
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emilylovesyou
Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Location: here
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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FBI check in Korea:
Request a fingerprint card from your state. Go to a police station here and get fingerprinted. Return the card to the FBI. Wait. |
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murmanjake

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:00 am Post subject: |
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emilylovesyou wrote: |
FBI check in Korea:
Request a fingerprint card from your state. Go to a police station here and get fingerprinted. Return the card to the FBI. Wait. |
and wait. and wait. and wait.... |
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wormholes101

Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Immigration Helpline with help in English: Ph: 1345.
You'd better call and check out the facts before you resign hastily. |
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aaron.southkorea
Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Location: Seoul
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aaron.southkorea
Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding the FBI background check, I sent away for it last week.
Fill out the form(s) here:
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/fprequest.htm
You can get your fingerprints taken (regardless of nationality) at the ID and Pass Office at Yongsan Military Base. It's not actually on base and is next to the USO Office. Map is below:
http://affiliates.uso.org/Korea/default.cfm?contentid=346
The fingerprinting (however many copies you want) is free and they don't ask for ID or anything. The forms are the official FBI forms and you fill out the pertinent information on the card and a ROK soldier will do your fingerprints. I had 4 copies made and sent in two copies of the FBI (I guess the rejection rate of improperly taken fingerprints is high).
The CBC costs USD $18 each. Include a letter with your CBC request and that letter must specify that you need the CBC sealed and affixed with the signature of an FBI officer as you intend to submit the documents for a federal apostille through the US Department of State. See: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/faqs.html
"9. Does the FBI provide apostilles*?
(*An apostille is a certification that a document that has been �legalized� or �authenticated� by the issuing agency through a process in which various seals are placed on the document.)
Yes. The CJIS Division will authenticate U.S. Department of Justice Order 556-73 fingerprint search results for international requests by placing the FBI seal and the signature of a division official on the results if requested at the time of submission. Documents prepared in this way may then be sent to the U.S. Department of State by the requester to obtain an apostille if necessary. This procedure became effective on January 25, 2010 and will apply only to documents finalized after that date. Requests to authenticate previously processed results will not be accepted. This procedure replaces the letter formerly provided by the CJIS Division that indicated the service was not provided. The apostille service is not provided to individuals requesting search results for Canadian immigration, as it is not required for this purpose."
Hope this helps. |
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War Eagle
Joined: 15 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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aaron.southkorea wrote: |
I just spoke with Immigration this morning as I'm in the same situation as the OP's girlfriend. BTW, I'm American so the federal check has recently changed and isn't in effect until Jan 2011 but this is the information I received. This is what I was told about ttompatz Option 1 (transferring visa with an LOR)...
*A federal background check - I double-checked with the woman who said that this is required to transfer even though it's not in full force until for new applicants until January 2011
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I don't doubt they told you this but it's not true. They can't change the rules on their own schools so fast. Think about all the hagwons and other schools that would just raise hell knowing they can't transfer any contracts for the next 2 months because they can't get the Fed CRC. |
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aaron.southkorea
Joined: 20 Jan 2010 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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War Eagle wrote: |
aaron.southkorea wrote: |
I just spoke with Immigration this morning as I'm in the same situation as the OP's girlfriend. BTW, I'm American so the federal check has recently changed and isn't in effect until Jan 2011 but this is the information I received. This is what I was told about ttompatz Option 1 (transferring visa with an LOR)...
*A federal background check - I double-checked with the woman who said that this is required to transfer even though it's not in full force until for new applicants until January 2011
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I don't doubt they told you this but it's not true. They can't change the rules on their own schools so fast. Think about all the hagwons and other schools that would just raise hell knowing they can't transfer any contracts for the next 2 months because they can't get the Fed CRC. |
I found out that this requirement is only if you plan on transferring your visa after September 1st, 2010. Why the random change? I'm not really sure. Per this post from ttompatz, it looks like prior to September 1st, 2010, only the following is required:
Quoting ttompatz: "Unless you can accomplish your transfer within the next 10 days I am no longer sure exactly they will require from you to complete a visa transfer.
Historically it was:
LOR
ARC
passport
new contract,
new employer's business registration
new employer's letter of guarantee (sponsorship)
application
60k won fee for the transfer
50k won fee to add a multi-entry permit (any previous re-entry privilege would be canceled with the transfer.
After Sept 1 you MAY (if I read the immigration specifics correctly) a Korean consulate verified copy of your degree (or one verified by the KCUE.) Their English website is here:
http://english.kcue.or.kr/sub_new_03_1.html."
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=189755
In the above link it appears as if someone successfully transferred with the previous requirements. |
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War Eagle
Joined: 15 Feb 2009
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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aaron.southkorea wrote: |
War Eagle wrote: |
aaron.southkorea wrote: |
I just spoke with Immigration this morning as I'm in the same situation as the OP's girlfriend. BTW, I'm American so the federal check has recently changed and isn't in effect until Jan 2011 but this is the information I received. This is what I was told about ttompatz Option 1 (transferring visa with an LOR)...
*A federal background check - I double-checked with the woman who said that this is required to transfer even though it's not in full force until for new applicants until January 2011
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I don't doubt they told you this but it's not true. They can't change the rules on their own schools so fast. Think about all the hagwons and other schools that would just raise hell knowing they can't transfer any contracts for the next 2 months because they can't get the Fed CRC. |
I found out that this requirement is only if you plan on transferring your visa after September 1st, 2010. Why the random change? I'm not really sure. Per this post from ttompatz, it looks like prior to September 1st, 2010, only the following is required:
Quoting ttompatz: "Unless you can accomplish your transfer within the next 10 days I am no longer sure exactly they will require from you to complete a visa transfer.
Historically it was:
LOR
ARC
passport
new contract,
new employer's business registration
new employer's letter of guarantee (sponsorship)
application
60k won fee for the transfer
50k won fee to add a multi-entry permit (any previous re-entry privilege would be canceled with the transfer.
After Sept 1 you MAY (if I read the immigration specifics correctly) a Korean consulate verified copy of your degree (or one verified by the KCUE.) Their English website is here:
http://english.kcue.or.kr/sub_new_03_1.html."
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=189755
In the above link it appears as if someone successfully transferred with the previous requirements. |
Because I am transferring my visa in October, I am really interested in this. However, I had the guy from my current school who handles all the hiring (he is Korean) to call immigration and they said a federal crc would not be required until Jan 1, ever for lor transfers.
It seems immi is just as confused as we are. But, I would like to get to the bottom of this, so gonna throw it into it's own thread to hopefully shed some light on the subject.
Edit: New thread here: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=189955 |
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