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Average Employment Length of a Typical EPIK/GEPIK Teacher?

 
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Epik_Teacher



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:02 am    Post subject: Average Employment Length of a Typical EPIK/GEPIK Teacher? Reply with quote

Just wondering if anyone has seen stats on how long EPIK teachers last? I was talking to another teacher and it seems the average teacher lasts 1-2 years. When I first got here in this little city, there were only a handful of teachers. Seen a lot of teachers come and go in the last 3 1/2 years. There are lots of new teachers here, but they don't seem to last long either. After 2 years, there was only one guy whose been here longer than me. I don't really expect EPIK and it's sister programs to last too much longer, anyway.

Any educated guesses on how long the average noob lasts?
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: Average Employment Length of a Typical EPIK/GEPIK Teache Reply with quote

Epik_Teacher wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has seen stats on how long EPIK teachers last? I was talking to another teacher and it seems the average teacher lasts 1-2 years. When I first got here in this little city, there were only a handful of teachers. Seen a lot of teachers come and go in the last 3 1/2 years. There are lots of new teachers here, but they don't seem to last long either. After 2 years, there was only one guy whose been here longer than me. I don't really expect EPIK and it's sister programs to last too much longer, anyway.

Any educated guesses on how long the average noob lasts?


My guesses:

mean: 14 months
median: 1 year
mode: 1 year

And, I would guess that the number that leaves without finishing one year exceeds the number that extends for a second year.

(This would be for continuous employment at the same school. Teachers who transfer count as not finishing.)
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things have changed a bit in the last year. Younger GETs seem to be staying longer (extending) - due to financial need and/or lack of jobs at home.
However, it will be interesting to see if the new 'hardened' attitude towards GET's (minimal holidays - unpaid camps, la, la, la) send the newbies home earlier.

My feeling is that many older/senior teachers will not be re-signed - or that they are leaving anyway.

I'm off at contract end. I don't think EPIK offers good jobs anymore.
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Epik_Teacher



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I've said in other posts, EPIK goes thru "bureaucratic reincarnations" every few years. We are in the 3rd or 4th incarnation of it. As each incarnation slides to it's end, contracts become more legalistic and chicken $hit. They become pickier and picker about small points, contracts get worse every year, etc... We're seeing the end of another incarnation of EPIK, my uneducated guess, ending FEB 2012.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind that EPIK is interested in assistant teachers and that as such it has little interest in long term teachers.

It makes little sense for their program to employ long-term foreign teachers and in the current market, as opposed to before, they do not have to.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Keep in mind that EPIK is interested in assistant teachers and that as such it has little interest in long term teachers.

It makes little sense for their program to employ long-term foreign teachers and in the current market, as opposed to before, they do not have to.


I've been saying much the same thing since 2005.

The long term game plan is to have KOREAN teachers fluent enough in English so they can dispense (completely) with any foreign teachers no matter where they may be.

Sure hakwons and some unis may still hire, but public schools will pretty much be a no-go zone. Long term hiring of foreign teachers has never been the plan. As such they don't require experienced teachers just someone who speaks English.
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