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bacasper
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| I don't believe the link to the video has been posted yet. |
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Captain Corea
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Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: |
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For someone complaining about boring classrooms, that speech seemed to drag along. |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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| To say a down sydrome child isn't valued by the world is ignorant. Try spending some time with organisations such as special olympics, you will see that many of the people there have more "class" and destinction than many healthy people walking this planet. |
Yes, it's wonderful that there are events such as the Special Olympics.
It is also wonderful that we have laws to protect the rights of handicapped students and employees.
But that's not enough.
Witness the ridicule of the handicapped in our everyday language.
An apparatus which does not function properly is a "retarded" apparatus.
A simple task is one which "any Mongolian idiot" can perform.
Many people would think nothing of using the "retarded" epithet against anyone they disagree with.
There are also Black sororities, Black fraternities, and organizations such as the NAACP.
That's wonderful, too.
And we've even elected a Black President!
But that's not enough, either. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Retarded didn't start out as an insult; it just means slow. Cognate with tardy. Due to semantic shift of course it's now offensive, but shifting to new terms always takes time, especially when said term is offensive for one age group but an older age group has never meant it as an insult.
Mongolian idiot - never heard that one before, to be honest. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
For someone complaining about boring classrooms, that speech seemed to drag along. |
Yeah, it's definitely better read than watched. |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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This thread veered way way off topic and I lack the patience to read all the replies.
Once while on a service job a construction worker took his son with him to the site, while I was doing some IT work.
His dad asked me to talk to his kid, so I tried to make the comparison to having and education and not having one as simple as possible.
"If you do well in school, you can choose what you want to do"
"Do poorly, then you must do what others tell you"
While I know that isn't the whole picture, it can clear up the issue of is my college diploma worth anything? In my opinion, yes. You demonstrate to a company that you dedicate yourself to achieving a goal- that goal being, graduating from college. Is it for everyone? Not at all- in fact I agree with the video that if people go to college later in life it will be more beneficial as classes will have more value and a student can make an intelligent decision for what they want in life. Skilled trades- nothing shameful about that, however there are those that refuse to let the cable guy/plumber/repairman use their facilities- even to wash hands. That elitist attitude disgusts me. Also another poster mentioned something about dishwashers being easier to replace than the chef or owner, this is also true. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| My high school english teacher told me that he believes everyone should wait 1 year between graduating high school and going to University. He says people should take that 1 year and travel, pursue interests, and pretty much find out what they wanted to do with their life. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| My high school english teacher told me that he believes everyone should wait 1 year between graduating high school and going to University. He says people should take that 1 year and travel, pursue interests, and pretty much find out what they wanted to do with their life. |
Yes, the Brits are wise to have that gap year. Be nice if more Americans did the same. |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| It's interesting how policies that communists forcibly imposed on the USSR, like hostility to class divisions and praise for physical labour, have been voluntarily accepted by Americans. |
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LGSakers
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| It's interesting how policies that communists forcibly imposed on the USSR, like hostility to class divisions and praise for physical labour, have been voluntarily accepted by Americans. |
Sounds like someone has had mommy and daddy pay their way, or most of it.
Pretty interesting indeed. I don't know how you couldn't praise the person cleaning up your trash and keeping the city streets clean, or the person working in the sewers to make sure the pipes work as intended, or the countless other people who work in the labor business so that the people you so wrongfully deem "better" and "upper class" can have an easier life.
Get off the horse and come down to reality. |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| LGSakers wrote: |
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| It's interesting how policies that communists forcibly imposed on the USSR, like hostility to class divisions and praise for physical labour, have been voluntarily accepted by Americans. |
Sounds like someone has had mommy and daddy pay their way, or most of it.
Pretty interesting indeed. I don't know how you couldn't praise the person cleaning up your trash and keeping the city streets clean, or the person working in the sewers to make sure the pipes work as intended, or the countless other people who work in the labor business so that the people you so wrongfully deem "better" and "upper class" can have an easier life.
Get off the horse and come down to reality. |
Are you actually from a family of garbagemen, or do you just have an inferiority complex? |
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LGSakers
Joined: 23 Jul 2010
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| It's called respect. It's that thing you get taught at a young age while you learn this other thing called social responsibility. |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| We didn't learn those things that at Eton. |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| My high school english teacher told me that he believes everyone should wait 1 year between graduating high school and going to University. He says people should take that 1 year and travel, pursue interests, and pretty much find out what they wanted to do with their life. |
Yes, I agree with you for the most part. |
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RMNC
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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I graduated with $11,000 in debt from a nationally recognized college. I can't fathom how anyone could ever possibly spend $200,000, or even $50,000. I just don't get how anyone who is 18 can see those kinds of numbers and go along with it.
It's all about the in-state colleges, baby. Hell yeah. |
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