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alexmcresswell
Joined: 04 Aug 2010
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 Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:58 am Post subject: British teachers please. Subject Access Form. |
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Hi everyone. This is quite embarrassing but I have a query regarding my subject access form.
Basically I received my information back this morning and I have a reprimand from Greater Manchester Police back in 2002 (I was 13 therefore a juvenile warning).
I stole a box of three magnum ice creams from my local supermarket if anyone's interested in the details.
I know that this could be considered a minor offence but how likely is it that this will be prove to be an obstacle for me when it comes to working in Korea.
I mean I since have a good law degree and TEFL certificate but I also appreciate that they ask for a clean record. Interestingly I phoned the police and they said that this reprimand would not have been apparent on a normal CRB check.
I could pay dearly for a silly, juvenile mistake, any advice from someone who knows the visa system better than I do would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Alex. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:16 am Post subject: Re: British teachers please. Subject Access Form. |
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| alexmcresswell wrote: |
I stole a box of three magnum ice creams from my local supermarket if anyone's interested in the details. |
I was up to the same kind of pranks at that age. Thank God it was always the people I was with who got caught: I always managed to get away with it somehow.
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| I know that this could be considered a minor offence but how likely is it that this will be prove to be an obstacle for me when it comes to working in Korea. |
As far as I know, Korean immigration only accepts 100% clear criminal checks.
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| Interestingly I phoned the police and they said that this reprimand would not have been apparent on a normal CRB check. |
Try an alternative records check e.g. disclosure Scotland. |
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LDJS
Joined: 22 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Basic Online disclosure from www.disclosuresscotland is good.
Been told as much by immi.
As I already have one and am applying for new gig post 01/09 have been told by Seoul immi twice that I don't need a new one.
Also by a recruiter.
Anyone else heard same?
Ttompaz...? |
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alexmcresswell
Joined: 04 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:20 am Post subject: Re: British teachers please. Subject Access Form. |
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| Junior wrote: |
| alexmcresswell wrote: |
I stole a box of three magnum ice creams from my local supermarket if anyone's interested in the details. |
I was up to the same kind of pranks at that age. Thank God it was always the people I was with who got caught: I always managed to get away with it somehow.
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| I know that this could be considered a minor offence but how likely is it that this will be prove to be an obstacle for me when it comes to working in Korea. |
As far as I know, Korean immigration only accepts 100% clear criminal checks.
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| Interestingly I phoned the police and they said that this reprimand would not have been apparent on a normal CRB check. |
Try an alternative records check e.g. disclosure Scotland. |
Thanks for your advice, does the disclosure Scotland hold different information and more importantly is it accepted by immigration. |
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Vix
Joined: 18 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:41 am Post subject: |
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A friend of mine managed to get a visa despite having a mark on her record. She broke licensing laws by selling alcohol before 12 on a Sunday and her employer pressed charges. I think you will be fine  . |
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broonie30
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Disclosure Scotland is 100% fine to use and is happily accepted by Korean Immigration.
Get a basic disclosure and once you submit the papers give them a call and ask for the head of disclosure scotland to stamp and sign the certificate. Their stamp and signature is an accepted notary and saves you having to take it to a solicitor and paying for them to do it.
This is what I did after others advised me and had no problems. |
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broonie30
Joined: 20 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| Ment to say that a Basic Disclosure from Disclosure Scotland only shows outstanding convictions. So no offences from your distant past will show up. Make sure you get a basic disclosure and not an enhanced disclose. The basic one is all Korean Immigration need and want. Good luck. |
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murmanjake
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:20 am Post subject: |
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So now Brits have a loophole and Americans don't?
No fair... |
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IanChops
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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You had a bigger one for a long time!
But it is my understanding that FBI checks dont show petty stuff if they have expired. And it's also possible to get old infringements expunged. Am I wrong?
Loopholes for everyone! |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| murmanjake wrote: |
So now Brits have a loophole and Americans don't?
No fair... |
A tiny one in many respects, as all unspent convictions are revealed by the basic check, and there are many offences that are never spent anyway - more serious offences that attract harsher punishment for example. This of course is completely different to the massive loophole that existed for Americans whereby the disclosure of any conviction, irrespective of its seriousness, could be avoided by simply applying for one of the numerous other state checks. This disclosure is still going to weed out recent offenders and more importantly, it will always expose those with a serious criminal past. |
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murmanjake
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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timolein23
Joined: 08 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| broonie30 wrote: |
Disclosure Scotland is 100% fine to use and is happily accepted by Korean Immigration.
Get a basic disclosure and once you submit the papers give them a call and ask for the head of disclosure scotland to stamp and sign the certificate. Their stamp and signature is an accepted notary and saves you having to take it to a solicitor and paying for them to do it.
This is what I did after others advised me and had no problems. |
so after its notarised will it need to be apostilled as well under the new immigration laws? |
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discostu333
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:10 am Post subject: |
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I got the original from Disclosures Scotland notarized and apostiled, went through immigration with no problems.
In fact, this is the only way Brits can / should be doing our CRB checks.
A Subject Access Request is NOT a CRB. Its a record of every piece of information a particular police force holds on you electronically. Its basically part of the UK Data Protection Act to allow you to see what particular info they hold on you.
You can't theoretically get a CRB check done for yourself. A CRB check has to be done by an employer either direct with the police or through an agency. There's different levels of disclosure, and the Disclosures Scotland website acts as an intermediary company to get the CRB check done for you.
The Subject Access Request may have stupid things on, like informal cautions for stealing that traffic cone when you were a student. The Disclosures Scotland one says if you've been convicted of a crime, or spent time in prison, which is all Immigration really need to know.
EDIT: Forgot to say, the Subject Access Request takes 40 days. Disclosures Scotland got my CRB to me in 6 days. Worth considering if you're on a tight deadline to get your docs together. |
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broonie30
Joined: 20 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| timolein23 wrote: |
| broonie30 wrote: |
Disclosure Scotland is 100% fine to use and is happily accepted by Korean Immigration.
Get a basic disclosure and once you submit the papers give them a call and ask for the head of disclosure scotland to stamp and sign the certificate. Their stamp and signature is an accepted notary and saves you having to take it to a solicitor and paying for them to do it.
This is what I did after others advised me and had no problems. |
so after its notarised will it need to be apostilled as well under the new immigration laws? |
Yeah it will still need to be apostilled as far as I know even for the new e2 requirements. The signature & stamp basically cuts out the job of having a solicitor notarize it. |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| Forgot to say, the Subject Access Request takes 40 days. Disclosures Scotland got my CRB to me in 6 days. Worth considering if you're on a tight deadline to get your docs together. |
My last Subject Access Request took 7 days to get to my home.
It used to take around 40 days but now I believe that your Local Police force can do all the required checks in-house rather than forwarding the request down to the Met as was the previous case. |
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