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Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: 2 K-teachers quitting to send a message... Reply with quote

One at one school i work at M,T,W and the other at the other school I work at on TTH,F.
Both claiming the same reason---the work load is too much and the pay isnt enough compared to what the foreigners make. The one teacher told me that I make more than her and it wasnt fair. They should get paid more, i agree. DO you think their little protest is going to change the directors mind on how much to pay the new 2 hires he has to make soon? lol.
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iggyb



Joined: 29 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quitting in this economy? The families must have some money...
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paulandsilas



Joined: 18 Aug 2010
Location: Daejeon, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only work three days, so why are they complaining?
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liveinkorea316



Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your schedule sounds like public school. If it is those women will have guts to just quit for something like that. Public school is a gravy train in Korea where their job is guaranteed till 65 and they hardly have to work much. Just teach (I mean lecture) the same textbook day in day out for days on end.

If you work in a Hagwon, indeed two, then they are likely to be getting paid not very much. They are also likely to not be qualified to teach English anyway because alot of Hagwon teachers who are Korean are simply college or uni grads in any discipline from what I have seen. They would be teaching in the hagwon until something (or someone) better comes along much like someone works in a gas station or coffee shop.

In the first case above i would think they are bluffing. In the second who cares cause they are like a good number of esl'ers out there who are on vacation aswell. Their excuse about foreign teachers wages sounds like it is cover for "my boss is shafting me and I hate this job, the hours and I don't know how to do it anyway so I am leaving to go back home with mum and dad till I can find something else I like doing between talking on my cell and shopping"
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asylum seeker



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hagwon teachers often only get between 1.2 and 1.5 million per month and do more work (eg calling parents, paperwork etc) than the NETS so I can sympathize. I think in some cases their teaching ability, in practical terms, actually exceeds that of the NET too.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulandsilas wrote:
The only work three days, so why are they complaining?

they work 5 days. i switch schools with another foreigner on TTH and F, but the K-teachers stay at their same schools
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

liveinkorea316 wrote:
Your schedule sounds like public school. If it is those women will have guts to just quit for something like that. Public school is a gravy train in Korea where their job is guaranteed till 65 and they hardly have to work much. Just teach (I mean lecture) the same textbook day in day out for days on end.

If you work in a Hagwon, indeed two, then they are likely to be getting paid not very much. They are also likely to not be qualified to teach English anyway because alot of Hagwon teachers who are Korean are simply college or uni grads in any discipline from what I have seen. They would be teaching in the hagwon until something (or someone) better comes along much like someone works in a gas station or coffee shop.

In the first case above i would think they are bluffing. In the second who cares cause they are like a good number of esl'ers out there who are on vacation aswell. Their excuse about foreign teachers wages sounds like it is cover for "my boss is shafting me and I hate this job, the hours and I don't know how to do it anyway so I am leaving to go back home with mum and dad till I can find something else I like doing between talking on my cell and shopping"


we are after-school program teachers
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last hagwons I worked at had the Korean teachers earning a lot less than the FT, but they only taught half the classes.

Not sure what the deal is there, but the haggies I was at had FT's 6 classes/ day and the KT's at 3-4.

They had to do a lot more prep work and marking tests etc but they sure weren't overworked.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In answer to your post, I don't think it will have the effect that you think it might on the director. They quit and gave a face-saving reason (resentment of your treatment) when in truth it could be unrelated. Maybe they found a better paying job (or got a boyfriend). People don't quit when it is hard to get cash.. well- smart people don't do that Idea
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GreenlightmeansGO



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supply and demand. You don't need a rocket-scientist Korean to be an afternoon-school English teacher. You just need someone with a decent (not nearly fluent) level of English and they can do the job. Hence, you can pay less and still get a teacher.

Now, let's say you offer 2 mil for the 1-5 job to a foreigner. That is the entry-level salary for most jobs, so it is alright for a foreigner. However, if you try offer that foreigner 1.5 mil for that job, you will not have a foreigner working for you.

Lastly, the Korean teacher can easily be replaced, while the foreigner will not be so easily/quickly replaced.
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Dodgy Al



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha! They must be young.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009