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How much can the stingiest of stingy expect to save?
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eIn07912



Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: How much can the stingiest of stingy expect to save? Reply with quote

Changed wrote:
My situation:
-American, 24, caucasian, (very) good looking


What was the point including this particular piece of information? It has no basis and is completely unrelated to the question itself. You could extract that part and your question is exactly the same. Why do you feel the need to share this?

On a side note, yes, being a miser you can do well over 16K a year if you put your head to it. It kimbap and drink cancer water from your tab everyday. Walk everywhere you go. Don't go out. Don't meet people. Just work and home. Teach privates under the radar and try to get away with charging them as much as possible. Pray you don't get caught.

But what kind of life would that be? I get you want to bang out your MA asap, but take a breather man. Your 20's are some of the best years of your life. Don't waste them sleeping on the floor and eating sh*t food and being a lonely s.o.b. Enjoy your life. If that means you don't save 16K a year, big deal. Save it in 2 or 3 years and travel your butt off, meet awesome people, get laid (a lot) and have the time of your life. I guarantee when you get to your 30's you'll wish you had.
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dickierok



Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Location: Yongin

PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickpidero wrote:
Changed wrote:
Yes, I was thinking that it would probably make more sense to teach in a rural area to prevent temptation... I believe there are some bonuses or increases in pay for teaching in rural schools?

On a side note: I try to work as little as possible. That is to say: I require very little material goods in order to live a simple, cheap lifestyle. I'd rather work a reasonable amount of hours at an EPIK school compared to a less-reasonable amount of hours at a hagwon (where they'd probably be hassling me all the time anyway).

So on to the second part of this thread:

Should I sign up for TEFL courses during the coming year to prepare for Korea? I've heard they run as much as $2,000 to become certified, and their effectiveness is questionable. I have no teaching experience-- I'd like to actually teach these kids something while I'm there-- but cannot decide whether the certification is monetarily worth it or even needed... Will my masters degree in English be enough to persuade somebody to hire me? Wink

Input?


Yo, if you're trying to do EPIK then you already get a pay raise because you are an English major, unless they changed the rule. I wouldn't worry about getting a TEFL just for one year.

Although, if they did change the rule, then I would suggest i-2-i online course. Really really easy course. And, if bumps you in pay for public schools. It only cost like 200 bucks.


In regards to the TEFL I would probably recommend doing a cheaper 100 hour course. Although if you work in a hagwon it will probably be of zero use but when I was applying for jobs many recruiters told me that the schools will take the applicants with TEFLs first. After a few weeks of trying (and failing) to find a job I got a TEFL, applied for more jobs and got one the following week.

I think the TEFL actually might come in useful as well for working in a public school, although I haven't worked in one myself so maybe I'm wrong.

If you do decide to do a TEFL course though remember to search for the discount codes when you are buying it. When I was buying my 100 hour course from i-to-i there was an option for a discount code. I Googled 'i-to-i discount code' on a whim, found one straight away and got 20% off the already discounted price. Which was nice.
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Vagabundo



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw OP you do realize you'll be getting 82-83 cents on the dollar (at current rates) because of the crappy exchange rate, right?

and if the equity markets swoon and we have a double dip, start thinking more like 70-75 cents, because there is no crappier currency in the even semi developed world.

If I were you and as good looking as you claim to be, I'd be looking at some gigolo work on the side.

Not even remotely joking.

the chances of you throwing up while having to do a Korean Mrs. Robinson are far lower than if you plied your temporary trade stateside, for e.g.

I spend most of my money during vacations outside of Korea, but live a very frugal existence while inside. You'll need 400K, possibly 500 to cover living expenses, but everything over that you can save (at 83 cents on the dollar that is, that's always painful for me when I do take vacations and spend money)
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bethy22788



Joined: 18 Aug 2010
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah that's OK... OP is spurning my advances Wink[/quote]
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Vagabundo



Joined: 26 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to hook up with these guys

(can't believe the cops don't have better things to do)


http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/09/117_72763.html

Young men busted for selling sex online to women

By Lee Hyo-sik

More than a dozen male high school and university students have been caught by police for operating multiple online community sites brokering sexual encounters between younger men and older women.

The Seoul Gangdong Police Station said Tuesday a 17-year-old high school student in Busan, indentified by his surname Oh, and 13 other males were booked without physical detention on charges of violating the law banning prostitution and sex trafficking. Of the 14, seven were high school students and the rest of them were university students and salaried workers in their early 30s.

Police also shut down 120 community cafes on Daum, Naver and other local web portals, which introduced teenage boys to older women seeking to have sex with minors.

According to police, Oh and other individuals had opened online community sites since March and recruited members among adult women. They then brokered sexual encounters between adult females in their 20s, 30s and 40s and young men, mostly high-school and university students. Also, salaried workers in their 20s were among those looking to earn money by sleeping with older women.

Oh and others were found to have gotten an idea from a recent cable TV program in which an older woman paid a young man to live together with her. The woman treated him like a pet, making him take care of household chores and her �needs.�

Among community cafes they operated, one site had a membership of 550 adult females. About 844 messages were posted on its bulletin board by either women seeking to have sex with younger men or younger men looking to find mature women.

A police officer said normally, older men seek to have sexual relations with teenage girls in cyberspace. �But these cafes cater to the sexual desires of older women. Adolescents also wanted to make easy money by sleeping with mature women. They contacted one another by leaving notes at cafes or by email. Some of the young men even received offers from gays,� the officer said.

He said the police immediately shut down all the sex service-brokering sites. �We will request a search warrant from the court to find out the identities of cafe members and check whether any sex took place.�
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MasonMateni



Joined: 29 Aug 2010
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple answer, yes you can expect to pay off that $16,000 Masters program in two years. If you are as frugal as you say you are, you can pay off the Masters, travel to China, take a trip to Japan, and fly to Bali all on your time off and still have a little left over. Granted, I made a little more than that when I was there, but I also saved a lot more than what you are hoping to, and I wasn't quite as frugal as you've described, though still frugal. As was mentioned, expect to pay about 400,000 to 500,000 won a month for expenses. Yes, that is living frugally, but not submitting yourself to poverty. Keep in mind you'll also receive a one month salary as bonus at the end of the year, and Korean Pension will throw in a bit too. Korean pension is 9% of your salary. Granted, 4.5% of that is merely a refund on what you paid each month, but the other half is a gift for you to do as you please. Also, if you live in Seoul or a bigger city, which I did not, living cost will be higher.
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