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zippie
Joined: 29 Jun 2010
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 Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:04 pm Post subject: which recruiting agencies would you recommend? |
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There seems to be so many recruiters out there all with their own websites. It's hard to discern which ones are legit and which ones are not.
I'm wondering if those who have been around the block can help by providing their top 5 or so reputable and trustworthy recruiting agencies? |
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Lady_Firefly
Joined: 06 Jul 2010
Location: Washington State
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If you have time to make a video and all that jazz, TEIK is a pretty good agency, but most of their jobs seemed rural and they will try and get you to buy their 'visa processing' package.
Star Teachers - Eunice from this agency was amazing, didn't end up going with her, but we're still going to grab a beer in Seoul with her upon arrival, she was chill. I've heard good things about other recruiters from stars as well.
VOU agency- got placed through them in hanam right outside of seoul. Super responsive. Pamela is wonderful! She worked so hard for us getting our contract totally fixed up.
there are some good ones to start. ATC was also pretty good. |
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ramen209
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smartwentcrazy
Joined: 26 Feb 2009
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Recruiters and agencies are worthless and quite frankly unqualified to place teachers at any school. They don't give a **** about placing qualified, experienced teachers. All they care about is the benjamins. I don't blame them either. It's the system that is flawed. Do public school systems in the U.S. or Europe use third-party agencies (which, by the way aren't regulated in any fashion nor are they forced to comply to hiring standards suitable for teachers) to hire their teaching staff? Absolutely not. As long as you are breathing, appear to be caucasian, blue eyes, and look like the typical American reject, those are the only standards "agencies" adhere to.
The fact that they are making thousands of dollars placing complete numbskulls into public and private schools alike into classrooms with children and students is mind-boggling. Ever since attending orientation and seeing the colorful bunch who claim to be 'teachers' hired by these scam agencies is infuriating not because they have jobs, but because they are teaching children and have the potential to make a huge impact on their students. There's a difference between hiring someone who is qualified and someone who 'appears' to be an English speaker. The line is becoming increasingly blurred with a flood of applicants coming to Korea and it's quite discerning the to education system here. |
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blonde researcher
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being
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Which orientation were you at ? The 2010 recernt one? Were most of the new teachers American and Canadian or did a few Irish and Brits get a foot in the door?  |
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iggyb
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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http://www.eslseoul.com/default/
ESL Seoul was good for me - and I say that after being one of the people last year that was dropped by SMOE at the last minute after having signed a contract.
ESL Seoul is connected to Oxford UP, Korea.
I had good training and experience in TESOL already, so my experience might be different than what someone with no teaching experience or training might get....maybe...
But, compared to my experience with recruiters and looking for a job on my own back in the day (1996-2000), ESL Seoul is an org I can recommend... |
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m_et
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject: Canada2Korea |
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Has anyone heard of this recruiting agency: Canada2Korea.com ?
Any reviews would be much appreciated. |
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zippie
Joined: 29 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I've been sending blindly emails with my resume/picture/transcripts/etc and i haven't heard back from any of them. I'm worried about the chance that whom I'm sending my info to could be some con man collecting people's personal info for their own use.....so i'm just looking for legit organizations that really do help out people states side who want to teach English.
I'm also wondering if the fact that one is gyopo might come into play here.
In any case, I'm wondering which particular recruiting agencies have other gyopo's had happy success with??
I'd really like to start this fall....
thanx guys
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zippie
Joined: 29 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Lady_Firefly wrote: |
If you have time to make a video and all that jazz, TEIK is a pretty good agency, but most of their jobs seemed rural and they will try and get you to buy their 'visa processing' package.
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don't schools take care of the visa processing thing? why would they want to sell this? i think just on that alone i'd steer clear of them....?? |
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kardisa
Joined: 26 Jun 2009
Location: Masan
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| Lady_Firefly wrote: |
If you have time to make a video and all that jazz, TEIK is a pretty good agency, but most of their jobs seemed rural and they will try and get you to buy their 'visa processing' package.
Star Teachers - Eunice from this agency was amazing, didn't end up going with her, but we're still going to grab a beer in Seoul with her upon arrival, she was chill. I've heard good things about other recruiters from stars as well.
VOU agency- got placed through them in hanam right outside of seoul. Super responsive. Pamela is wonderful! She worked so hard for us getting our contract totally fixed up.
there are some good ones to start. ATC was also pretty good. |
Have to interject here even though this post is months old (in the event that someone else is misled like I was.
I also used Pamela Ji at the recommendation of this thread.
She tried to force me into accepting a position where the school threatened to sue me for not accepting, and wouldn't allow me to communicate with the current english teacher.
My boyfriend took a job through her and insisted she was wonderful and cooperative. She held his second criminal background check hostage for 6 months (until it expired) then stopped contacting him entirely.
From the first month of his employment, he complained to her and her boss about not getting pension, healthcare, or employee tax rate as promised in his contract. His school finally gave him these things after FIVE MONTHS and no contact with the recruiting agency only to find out he is being fired for demanding the school honor his contract.
The boss made repeated lies about Pamela being diabetic and going to the hospital over "mosquito bite" and ridiculous shit.
Just today he tried to call her boss repeatedly and he just hangs up the phone. He has done nothing wrong but they are trying to get another recruiting fee out of the current school.
This school has been STEALING 3,000,000W from its foreign teachers for the past FOUR years, and only because my boyfriend called them out on it by confirming he had no account with pension, health insurance offices (and coincidently that the school was committing tax fraud by underreporting his salary and pocketing the difference) is he being "replaced."
Under no circumstances should you ever have any dealings with this woman. She is venomous and only out for money, and pretty much the epitome of the stereotypical recruiter you want to stay away from.
I can't speak for you, but she's 2/2 in pressing absolutely horrible jobs to people I know (myself included). |
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Bruce W Sims
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Illinois; USA
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| smartwentcrazy wrote: |
Recruiters and agencies are worthless and quite frankly unqualified to place teachers at any school. They don't give a **** about placing qualified, experienced teachers. All they care about is the benjamins. I don't blame them either. It's the system that is flawed. Do public school systems in the U.S. or Europe use third-party agencies (which, by the way aren't regulated in any fashion nor are they forced to comply to hiring standards suitable for teachers) to hire their teaching staff? Absolutely not. As long as you are breathing, appear to be caucasian, blue eyes, and look like the typical American reject, those are the only standards "agencies" adhere to.
The fact that they are making thousands of dollars placing complete numbskulls into public and private schools alike into classrooms with children and students is mind-boggling. Ever since attending orientation and seeing the colorful bunch who claim to be 'teachers' hired by these scam agencies is infuriating not because they have jobs, but because they are teaching children and have the potential to make a huge impact on their students. There's a difference between hiring someone who is qualified and someone who 'appears' to be an English speaker. The line is becoming increasingly blurred with a flood of applicants coming to Korea and it's quite discerning the to education system here. |
Actually, I would really like to hear more about the people you saw at that orientation/training. How many folks were at your training? What was the split between female and male? What was the age range? What was the experience, and what was the education level? I asked a question similar to this a while back to get a sense of just who exactly gets hired but it didn't go very far. I would really like to know the demographics on applicants who were successful in finding a position. Help?
Best Wishes,
Bruce |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Bruce W Sims wrote: |
| smartwentcrazy wrote: |
Recruiters and agencies are worthless and quite frankly unqualified to place teachers at any school. They don't give a **** about placing qualified, experienced teachers. All they care about is the benjamins. I don't blame them either. It's the system that is flawed. Do public school systems in the U.S. or Europe use third-party agencies (which, by the way aren't regulated in any fashion nor are they forced to comply to hiring standards suitable for teachers) to hire their teaching staff? Absolutely not. As long as you are breathing, appear to be caucasian, blue eyes, and look like the typical American reject, those are the only standards "agencies" adhere to.
The fact that they are making thousands of dollars placing complete numbskulls into public and private schools alike into classrooms with children and students is mind-boggling. Ever since attending orientation and seeing the colorful bunch who claim to be 'teachers' hired by these scam agencies is infuriating not because they have jobs, but because they are teaching children and have the potential to make a huge impact on their students. There's a difference between hiring someone who is qualified and someone who 'appears' to be an English speaker. The line is becoming increasingly blurred with a flood of applicants coming to Korea and it's quite discerning the to education system here. |
Actually, I would really like to hear more about the people you saw at that orientation/training. How many folks were at your training? What was the split between female and male? What was the age range? What was the experience, and what was the education level? I asked a question similar to this a while back to get a sense of just who exactly gets hired but it didn't go very far. I would really like to know the demographics on applicants who were successful in finding a position. Help?
Best Wishes,
Bruce |
Typically, at orientation (depending on whether a POE, EPIK, GEPIK, or SMOE), there will be from 300-900 bodies (the smaller number is usually a residential program number typical of EPIK and the larger one typical of a GEPIK day program where you commute from your home to orientation and occurs AFTER you are placed into a school).
The ages range from fresh grad (21-22) to 50 and the mix is pretty much 60/40 male to female.
With very few exceptions there are NO new hires from abroad over 50. They will occasionally hire over 50's if you are in Korea and/or have Korean experience (usually a direct hire by a public school and not through the EPIK/GEPIK recruitment drive).
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FastForward
Joined: 04 Jul 2011
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| zippie wrote: |
I've been sending blindly emails with my resume/picture/transcripts/etc and i haven't heard back from any of them. I'm worried about the chance that whom I'm sending my info to could be some con man collecting people's personal info for their own use.....so i'm just looking for legit organizations that really do help out people states side who want to teach English.
I'm also wondering if the fact that one is gyopo might come into play here.
In any case, I'm wondering which particular recruiting agencies have other gyopo's had happy success with??
I'd really like to start this fall....
thanx guys |
I just went to the Korean job board on Dave's randomly picked 5 recruiters based on their jobs available and sent an email to them with my resume and picture. I advised that I will be obtaining my F4 visa at the end of August and 4 of them have responded back by email with 3 of them calling me to go over a few details.
Why are you sending them your transcripts? Just send your resume and photo. |
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Bruce W Sims
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Illinois; USA
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
Typically, at orientation (depending on whether a POE, EPIK, GEPIK, or SMOE), there will be from 300-900 bodies (the smaller number is usually a residential program number typical of EPIK and the larger one typical of a GEPIK day program where you commute from your home to orientation and occurs AFTER you are placed into a school).
The ages range from fresh grad (21-22) to 50 and the mix is pretty much 60/40 male to female.
With very few exceptions there are NO new hires from abroad over 50. They will occasionally hire over 50's if you are in Korea and/or have Korean experience (usually a direct hire by a public school and not through the EPIK/GEPIK recruitment drive).
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Thanks for the info. That really helps.
Best Wishes,
Bruce |
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I used to have a saved cut-and-paste answer to this sort of thread, and it went something like this:
USE ALL RECRUITERS AND PLASTER YOUR RESUME ON EVERY BOARD YOU CAN FIND. THE BEST RECRUITER WINDS UP BEING THE ONE THAT CAN PUT YOU INTO THE RARIFIED JOB THAT WON'T GET YOU SCREWED OVER IN SOME WAY OVER YOUR FIRST YEAR.
AGAIN, STOP ASKING ABOUT RECRUITERS. USE ANY AND ALL OF THEM! |
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