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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the latest:

Arab rape-by-deception charge 'was result of plea bargain'

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Fresh details have emerged in the case of a Palestinian man an Israeli court convicted of "rape by deception" after he was accused of posing as a Jewish man in order to have sex with a Jewish-Israeli woman.

The case caused international outrage when it was first reported, in July, but now an Israeli newspaper has reported that the conviction was the result of a plea bargain over a violent rape.

Ha'ir, a Tel Aviv weekly and part of the newspaper group that owns Haaretz, published extracts from the victim's unsealed testimony. It also reported that the prosecution had agreed to the reduced charge of "rape by deception" because of the victim's confused account and concern at facing another court appearance.


If this is true then it wasn't a 'rape by deception' but rather what Whoopi Goldberg would refer to as a 'rape rape.' But even 'rape rapes' are difficult to prosecute...and so the compromise.

The whole thing is still confusing however as
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One of the judges said that, although the sex had been consensual, the woman involved "would not have consented if she had not believed Kushour was Jewish".


But that could also be because the judge may well be an ignorant 'sexist pig' who doesn't believe that a former sex worker can actually be raped:

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This week, Ha'ir reported that, according to her testimony, the woman had met Kashur on a street in West Jerusalem and chatted with him for a few minutes before he invited her into a nearby building, claiming it was his workplace. Asked why she had agreed, she reportedly told the court: "I looked for someone to put my trust in."

Once inside the building, the woman says she was raped and then left naked and bleeding. Part of her testimony reads: "He said that if I don't stay silent and I don't resist, then it would like end faster and it wouldn't be like ... he wouldn't use force. I still resisted him, and it was forced."

The newspaper describes a women in her late 20s who had been abused by her father from an early age and forced by him to become a sex worker. She was living at a women's shelter when the incident occurred, and was subsequently taken to a psychiatric hospital with a section for female victims of sexual crimes.


And there's this:

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Ha'ir also reports that the woman had filed 14 previous complaints, mostly for sexual offences, some of which did not result in convictions owing to lack of evidence or because of questions around the veracity of the complaint. The prosecution was concerned that Kashur's legal team would question the women over all these cases in court.


But then, I wouldn't be surprised that a former sex worker had suffered other sexual offences. A perk of the job.
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Man on Street



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:


If this is true then it wasn't a 'rape by deception' but rather what Whoopi Goldberg would refer to as a 'rape rape.' But even 'rape rapes' are difficult to prosecute...and so the compromise.


I didn't know that Whoopi Golberg was an expert on rape nor that she has created a classification that adds the word rape to rape to indicate a real rape.
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man on Street wrote:
Big_Bird wrote:


If this is true then it wasn't a 'rape by deception' but rather what Whoopi Goldberg would refer to as a 'rape rape.' But even 'rape rapes' are difficult to prosecute...and so the compromise.


I didn't know that Whoopi Golberg was an expert on rape nor that she has created a classification that adds the word rape to rape to indicate a real rape.


You missed her famous Polanski-related gaff, then.
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geldedgoat



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It also reported that the prosecution had agreed to the reduced charge of "rape by deception" because of the victim's confused account and concern at facing another court appearance.


This doesn't make the story any more palatable, as "rape by deception" is apparently an actual, punishable offense in and of itself... and she still consented to it.
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