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CtotheB



Joined: 03 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:24 am    Post subject: What can I do to get ahead in finding a job? Reply with quote

So basically I'm looking to get a job in Korea next summer. I want to get ahead of the game and start early. What are my options? From what I understand, the best way to do this is to start talking to recruiters and schools now and to get your paperwork in order.

About me: I'm 23, I finish my Bachelor degree next spring. White male from the USA.

Firstly, can anyone tell me a little bit more about the paperwork aspect?

Criminal Background Check- State? Federal? Country? FBI? Which do you need and where/how did you get yours done?

Two references letters- Two letters basically stating how you're a good person, kind, good at teaching, responsible, etc. Right?

An apostilled copy of your degree- This one I'm not so sure of, I know that just means essentially getting it notarized, but how does one go about it?

Sealed transcripts- Literally a manila folder with your transcripts/degree audit from college in them?

Passport- Going to get this soon, how long does it take?

And I've got my head shot and resume +cover letter sorted out.

Is there Anything I'm missing?


Second, I've applied to several recruitment agencies, but haven't heard back from them yet. What other ways can I be getting ahead? I fear these agencies will never get back to me and I'll be stuck next Spring trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel for any job that starts in the summer.

Thanks for any suggestions.
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J Rock



Joined: 17 Jan 2009
Location: The center of the Earth, Suji

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll leave it to the pros to tell you about all the documents your going to need but as for contacting a recruiters ahead of time it's probably just going to frustrate you. Planning out ahead of time in seems like the logical choice but these recruiters like to work fast. They make money by placing you in a job, so if you contact them and say your looking for a job in 8 months I feel like they would just blow you off until the time came.

That's just my opinion with these people other people may have had other experiences.

Good luck
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smjstevens



Joined: 04 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J Rock has it right. I'm in Korea now, looking to find a new job starting in January, and the recruiters won't even talk to me because I'm trying to plan 4 months in advance. In addition to that, all your documents have to be less than 6 months old, so planning too far ahead may actually hurt you more than anything. If you really want to get a leg up, start reading up on teaching techniques (there are several great books specifically about teaching children in Asia) or start learning Korean. Even basic skills really help when you get here, and 8 months is enough time to become basically proficient if you work at it. Order your documents, especially your background check, about 3-4 months before you plan to arrive and start talking to recruiters 3 months or less before you want to be here and you'll be golden. Most schools don't post openings more than three months in advance anyway.

The only exception to this is if you want to do a government-run public school program (EPIK, GEPIK, etc.). They have certain dates every year that they place people, and they start the process about 6 months early. But if I recall correctly, they place in March and September. If you want to come in the summer, see above.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: What can I do to get ahead in finding a job? Reply with quote

CtotheB wrote:
So basically I'm looking to get a job in Korea next summer. I want to get ahead of the game and start early. What are my options? From what I understand, the best way to do this is to start talking to recruiters and schools now and to get your paperwork in order.

About me: I'm 23, I finish my Bachelor degree next spring. White male from the USA.

Firstly, can anyone tell me a little bit more about the paperwork aspect?

Criminal Background Check- State? Federal? Country? FBI? Which do you need and where/how did you get yours done?

Two references letters- Two letters basically stating how you're a good person, kind, good at teaching, responsible, etc. Right?

An apostilled copy of your degree- This one I'm not so sure of, I know that just means essentially getting it notarized, but how does one go about it?

Sealed transcripts- Literally a manila folder with your transcripts/degree audit from college in them?

Passport- Going to get this soon, how long does it take?

And I've got my head shot and resume +cover letter sorted out.

Is there Anything I'm missing?


Second, I've applied to several recruitment agencies, but haven't heard back from them yet. What other ways can I be getting ahead? I fear these agencies will never get back to me and I'll be stuck next Spring trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel for any job that starts in the summer.

Thanks for any suggestions.


First thing to do it sit back, relax, mellow out for a few months and perhaps read up (before saying something that will make you look the fool) on the FAQs on the different teachers boards and forums.

IF you are looking at Korea for your first foray into the EFL job market you are about 6-8 months too early for anyone to even consider taking you seriously.

There is NOTHING you can do until you actually get your hot little hands on your freshly minted parchment from the UNI. No one can process or even consider beginning to process a job application until you have it.

Next step, about 2 months BEFORE you are due to receive your parchment is to order your FBI criminal background check. It will take 2-4 months to arrive after you apply for it.

AFTER you get your CRC and Parchment in hand you will need to get an apostille affixed to them. You get this done at the secretary of state (for your state). The process varies a bit from state to state so be ready for it.

This would be a good time to get your passport if you don't have it already.

AFTER you get your CRC and Parchment copy in hand (with apostille affixed) it is time to scan them along with your passport information page, add your resume and cover letter and contact some recruiters or one of the provincial Public School recruitment programs (EPIK, GEPIK, etc).

IF you have your documents in hand the process typically takes 12-21 days from an offer till you board the plane (it can go really fast).

IF you do NOT have your documents in hand then it will take that time + however long it takes to get your documents ready. You are going overseas so close isn't good enough. Most recruiters won't take you seriously until you have them because they won't wait and neither will the job.

There are lots of jobs but you have to be ready when it is or wait for the next one. The turnover is large and fast so just relax, read, research and watch the job boards so you know what each market is worth and what you are worth in each market with your job skill set.

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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, no recruiters will help you now. You're way to early.

Things you should do now. Start researching info about Korea. Troll these boards. Although you will hear a lot of horror stories on here, there is a lot of good advice to be learned. Most people that come to Korea have great experiences. Most people that come on Dave's have had bad ones. Don't let the Negative Nancys sway your decision to come here. Read the boards, learn from others' mistakes, that's the best way to use the info on here.

Get your passport now if you don't have one.

Wait until the end of Spring/early summer to do your CRC.

Does your university give you your diploma on the day of graduation or do you have to wait a few weeks like most schools? That is what is going to hold you up the most.

If you want to work at a public school you might miss the Summer mass hiring session unless you get your diploma really fast. They usually want you in country from early to mid August for these positions. I think the application process starts in May for these positions, but I might be incorrect on that.

That means you might have to wait for some positions to open up in whatever random public schools are out of sync with the mass hirings or wait until the following winter to get into the next mass hiring process.

Your other option is to work at a hagwon (private institute). There are 1000's of these schools and they hire year round.
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CtotheB



Joined: 03 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ttompatz, great advice as always. I appreciate you for gracing my thread with your wisom. I've been reading these boards for about 2 years now, so I feel like a vet even though I've not actually even been to Korea, so please excuse any ignorance I may show. It's been a goal of mine to teach in Korea after school to pay off my debt and take in the world, like most others. I'm even taking Korean classes for my last two terms at University to get a little boost before I go over.

Allow me to say that I'm aware the market is tightening on Korea, so I figure any head start I can get will be a big help in the end. That's my cause for concern over the documents/recruiters/everything.

I'll make sure to follow your guide to the letter. I graduate in March 2011. I'm just applying to recruiters to get my name in their systems and to make them aware that they've got a warm body to send to a contract that seems fit for me once I'm all ready with my documents.

I'll be sure to have everything prepared, keep my eyes on the job boards and on here, and make sure I don't miss the plane to Korea.
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SandyG21



Joined: 26 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apply for the passport now - it can take awhile to get it - especially in the USA.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:50 pm    Post subject: Learn Reply with quote

Learn basic Korean and learn how to eat with chopsticks. Anything more than that is wasteful.
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered a video introduction? I just blogged about an easy way to make a video intro

It is super simple and you basically only use audio but iwth your own picture/pics. My blog post walks you through it.

I know how hard it can be too, to find ALL the jobs. Jobs posted everywhere. You can see my twitter to get all the jobs in one place and stay informed.
http://twitter.com/eltjobs over 80 sites in the feed and hundreds of jobs daily.

Cheers,

DD
http://eflclassroom.com
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CtotheB



Joined: 03 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ddeubel, I'll bookmark it and be sure to use it once I am prepared with all my documents. I'll also head over to Kinko's and the post office tomorrow and get my passport ready.
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gogophoto



Joined: 20 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CtotheB wrote:
Thanks ttompatz, great advice as always. I appreciate you for gracing my thread with your wisom. I've been reading these boards for about 2 years now, so I feel like a vet even though I've not actually even been to Korea, so please excuse any ignorance I may show. It's been a goal of mine to teach in Korea after school to pay off my debt and take in the world, like most others. I'm even taking Korean classes for my last two terms at University to get a little boost before I go over.

Allow me to say that I'm aware the market is tightening on Korea, so I figure any head start I can get will be a big help in the end. That's my cause for concern over the documents/recruiters/everything.

I'll make sure to follow your guide to the letter. I graduate in March 2011. I'm just applying to recruiters to get my name in their systems and to make them aware that they've got a warm body to send to a contract that seems fit for me once I'm all ready with my documents.

I'll be sure to have everything prepared, keep my eyes on the job boards and on here, and make sure I don't miss the plane to Korea.


Don't worry about getting your name into their system--they will systematically ignore it or forget about it until you have the documents in hand that allow you to get a visa. Recruiters are seeing a LOT more volume than they used to (a lot more people have decided to give this whole thing a try in the past couple of years) and anyone who can't be placed in short order (i.e. someone with all documents in hand) will be largely ignored. Would you do any different? You will do well to follow ttompatz advice and just wait until you have everything you need in hand and have scanned images to prove it; recruiters will take you seriously when they know that you can get the visa.

Take into account though, that Korea is not as good for saving money as it used to be. The won's exchange rate versus other countries (especially the US) is not nearly as favorable as it once was, and the price of basic goods like food have undergone major inflation in the last couple of years. Also, with the major influx of people from ailing western economies, ESL in Korea has become an employer's market for what is probably the first time. This means salaries are stagnating and it is difficult to command as much money as you could a few years ago.

All that being said: I'm here, not making a ridiculous amount of money but saving more than I could back home. Many recent college grads are almost unemployable in the US simply because the economy has shed so many jobs. This isn't a bad place to save some cash, but I wish I had been here in 2005 or 2006...
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dye your hair blonde, get your skin pulled tight, get a sex change to female, and forge your passport. Tell recruiters you are a blond haired north american female who is 23 years old.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Employers aren't going to give you the time of day until you're within the 2-3 month window of opportunity for employment.
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