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Gazpacho
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 Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:41 am Post subject: Is my sealed transcript 'sealed?' |
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I've just received my transcript from uni, but the envelope isn't sealed by the gum, just by some sellotape, with the ends of the flap clearly unsealed.
Does this still qualify as a 'sealed' transcript? |
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RMNC
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| Technically yes, but if you're paranoid about it you can get a new envelope and re-seal it in a method you think will say "No one has opened this yet". If you can't do that for some other reason, then you'll probably be alright, most people would be able to spot an fresh, unopened cellophane envelope from one that's been tampered with, having ripped paper along the tape line, leftover tape, what have you. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
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Does it have a stamp printed on the outside over the flap where you would open it? If not, retry by either going in person or sending a note explaining this with your transcript request.
Really, the only way for immigration to truly verify degrees would be to have your university send it directly to Korea, but they are too disorganized to do it properly in this manner like Western employers require when diploma verification is important. Why? It would be sent separately (and lost!) instead of kept in order in the visa application packet you will express to Korea via DHL or Fed Ex. Immigration knows it's system is flawed in that it's easily tricked by fakes, but after many years of issues surround fake diplomas, they choose to give legitimate foreign English teachers a hard time instead of fixing their broken system. Now if they would take this simple idea (seek professional advice from Western universities registrar offices) and do it this way instead of the Korean way, there wouldn't be all these problems surrounding diploma validity verification. Because of being disorganized and unsure of their work leading to numerous changes in E-2 visa laws, I've been requested to resubmit my diploma 3 times after arriving in Korea. It happens.
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NMonk
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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| you might want to double check with your recruiter what documents you need. As of 01/09/2010 sealed transcripts were no longer required. You do now have to have a notarized and apostilled photocopy of your degree now as well, not the original. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| you might want to double check with your recruiter what documents you need. As of 01/09/2010 sealed transcripts were no longer required. You do now have to have a notarized and apostilled photocopy of your degree now as well, not the original. |
Ah, they are working on fixing their system, but giving some of us already here a hard time by subjecting us in the middle of an E-2 already legitimately obtained to new requirements of paying a fairly large fee (60,500 W) to re-verify our diplomas. I think it's an unreasonable request unless renewing or applying for a new visa.
The apostille will fix this issue once and for all if your states secretary of state office verifies a diploma which they probably can and Korean immigration knows this is a consistent fact guaranteeing the authenticity of the apostille. When I got my CBC apostille, there was no verification of it's authenticity so it's just more paper work. Don't hold your breath on this one being fixed with a solution set in stone if immigration knows or thinks something is inconsistent with apostilles at some point in time where legitimate teachers don't have any more issues. Do bring and keep originals and copies of all your documents. |
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NMonk
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
Location: South Korea
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| you might want to double check with your recruiter what documents you need. As of 01/09/2010 sealed transcripts were no longer required. You do now have to have a notarized and apostilled photocopy of your degree now as well, not the original. |
Ah, they are working on fixing their system, but giving some of us already here a hard time by subjecting us in the middle of an E-2 already legitimately obtained to new requirements of paying a fairly large fee (60,500 W) to re-verify our diplomas. I think it's an unreasonable request unless renewing or applying for a new visa.
The apostille will fix this issue once and for all if your states secretary of state office verifies a diploma which they probably can and Korean immigration knows this is a consistent fact guaranteeing the the authenticity of the apostille. When I got my CBC apostille, there was no verification of it's authenticity so it's just paper work. |
Im renewing at the moment. I couldn't even get mine done at the British Embassy here as they told me it could take up to 6 weeks. Have had to courier my degree certificate to some solicitors in the u.k, for them to photocopy and get Apostilled in the milton keynes common wealth office place. its cost me $200. Guttered!! O.P I would definitely double check with your agent what you need, and even ask them to double check with immigration. Here is a summary of the new regulations for you O.P:
New E-2 Visa Rules
Compiled by Rob Ouwehand from articles by Jason Smith and Kevin Chung
E2 Visa Rules
(from Korean Insider.com and HiKorea.go.kr)
Some new E2 Visa rules are coming for teaching English in Korea so be ready for the changes to take place as early as this month, but more officially taking effect on September 1st, 2010, and January 1st, 2011. While giving two dates seems unclear, it is better to prepare these documents now, rather that be caught them.
1. State criminal checks for American teachers or provincial checks from Canadian teachers won�t be accepted. FBI and RCMP checks only will be accepted from Jan 1st. If you entered Korea with a provincial or state check, and you want to renew your E-2 visa after January 1, or extend it with your current school, then you�ll have to submit the FBI or RCMP check. Even if you supplied a state criminal check before it looks like they�ll ask for that one. Those can take up to 2 months to get and Immigration accepts it as valid for 6 months after it was issued, so be sure get the timing right. It would seem that South Africans, Australians (with AFP checks), UK citizens (Disclosure Scotland checks), Irish (Garda checks) and New Zealanders with the government handled checks should be fine.
2. Your original degree (come Sept 1st 2010) will not be accepted and you will have to get a notarized and apostille copy (Korean Consulate notary for Canadians). Be sure to get 2 copies: immigration will keep one and one will go to the local board of education in the town where you will be teaching in Korea. Also if you want to renew or extend you will have to get a notarized copy + apostille or likely if in the country you can still get that done by your embassy.
3. The medical check done in Korea after you arrive will start testing for marijuana, but possibly not HIV. After July 15th, Not sure though what the consequences are if you do test positive for Pot or HIV. Will they deport you? Not clear at this stage and probably won�t be till it happens to someone.
4. Looks like you can add up to 5 additional workplaces on your work visa so that might be good for some people who want to teach more and make more, but it likely won�t be an easy process. As far as we have seen only adding a public school is painless in Korea and not adding a private academy or hagwon.
5. University Transcripts are no longer required, starting on September 1.
6. When re-applying for another visa, if your federal criminal background check was approved for a year in Korea, and you spend less than three months outside of Korea before starting another year in Korea, you will not need to submit another criminal background check.
7. Health checks will now test for TBPE (hard drugs like amphetamines heroin and cocaine, as before) and also cannaboids (marijuana).
8. Teachers will no longer have their visa issuing stopped, or their visas canceled, upon a positive HIV test.
This is just a rough guide, and subject to change. Be sure to verify with the original source, the government run Korean Immigration page HiKorea.go.kr |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| you might want to double check with your recruiter what documents you need. As of 01/09/2010 sealed transcripts were no longer required. You do now have to have a notarized and apostilled photocopy of your degree now as well, not the original. |
Ah, they are working on fixing their system, but giving some of us already here a hard time by subjecting us in the middle of an E-2 already legitimately obtained to new requirements of paying a fairly large fee (60,500 W) to re-verify our diplomas. I think it's an unreasonable request unless renewing or applying for a new visa.
The apostille will fix this issue once and for all if your states secretary of state office verifies a diploma which they probably can and Korean immigration knows this is a consistent fact guaranteeing the the authenticity of the apostille. When I got my CBC apostille, there was no verification of it's authenticity so it's just paper work. |
Im renewing at the moment. I couldn't even get mine done at the British Embassy here as they told me it could take up to 6 weeks. Have had to courier my degree certificate to some solicitors in the u.k, for them to photocopy and get Apostilled in the milton keynes common wealth office place. its cost me $200. Guttered!! O.P I would definitely double check with your agent what you need, and even ask them to double check with immigration. Here is a summary of the new regulations for you O.P:
New E-2 Visa Rules
Compiled by Rob Ouwehand from articles by Jason Smith and Kevin Chung
E2 Visa Rules
(from Korean Insider.com and HiKorea.go.kr)
Some new E2 Visa rules are coming for teaching English in Korea so be ready for the changes to take place as early as this month, but more officially taking effect on September 1st, 2010, and January 1st, 2011. While giving two dates seems unclear, it is better to prepare these documents now, rather that be caught them.
1. State criminal checks for American teachers or provincial checks from Canadian teachers won�t be accepted. FBI and RCMP checks only will be accepted from Jan 1st. If you entered Korea with a provincial or state check, and you want to renew your E-2 visa after January 1, or extend it with your current school, then you�ll have to submit the FBI or RCMP check. Even if you supplied a state criminal check before it looks like they�ll ask for that one. Those can take up to 2 months to get and Immigration accepts it as valid for 6 months after it was issued, so be sure get the timing right. It would seem that South Africans, Australians (with AFP checks), UK citizens (Disclosure Scotland checks), Irish (Garda checks) and New Zealanders with the government handled checks should be fine.
2. Your original degree (come Sept 1st 2010) will not be accepted and you will have to get a notarized and apostille copy (Korean Consulate notary for Canadians). Be sure to get 2 copies: immigration will keep one and one will go to the local board of education in the town where you will be teaching in Korea. Also if you want to renew or extend you will have to get a notarized copy + apostille or likely if in the country you can still get that done by your embassy.
3. The medical check done in Korea after you arrive will start testing for marijuana, but possibly not HIV. After July 15th, Not sure though what the consequences are if you do test positive for Pot or HIV. Will they deport you? Not clear at this stage and probably won�t be till it happens to someone.
4. Looks like you can add up to 5 additional workplaces on your work visa so that might be good for some people who want to teach more and make more, but it likely won�t be an easy process. As far as we have seen only adding a public school is painless in Korea and not adding a private academy or hagwon.
5. University Transcripts are no longer required, starting on September 1.
6. When re-applying for another visa, if your federal criminal background check was approved for a year in Korea, and you spend less than three months outside of Korea before starting another year in Korea, you will not need to submit another criminal background check.
7. Health checks will now test for TBPE (hard drugs like amphetamines heroin and cocaine, as before) and also cannaboids (marijuana).
8. Teachers will no longer have their visa issuing stopped, or their visas canceled, upon a positive HIV test.
This is just a rough guide, and subject to change. Be sure to verify with the original source, the government run Korean Immigration page HiKorea.go.kr |
Hey! I read today that you can use the KCUE's verification service if in Korea and renewing. The blogger called immi on July 20th and was told about these new rules, but was told there is a way around doing it the difficult and expensive way like you are doing. If you haven't paid out all that money, it's worth calling immi to verify you can still use the KCUE diploma verification. I stumbled on this today Googling about the KCUE verifying diplomas.
Read this. http://stafford.squarespace.com/journal/2010/7/20/new-visa-regulations-e2-the-facts.html
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On this point I rang immigration. They confirmed that once they have received your degree information you won't have to submit it again. In addition I raised the topic of the costly sending of degrees back and forth to get Apostilles. Immigration noted you can get your degree information verified by The Korean Council for University Education. Although one wonders if they are on the same page as Immigration, looking at the KCUE's site, they state that we are unable to process requests by individuals.
Although I see one way of getting around this to be to get your school to get the verification done. The cost of verification ranges between W60000 and W66000 depending on where your degree was issued and you should expect the process to take about 5 weeks. |
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NMonk
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| NMonk wrote: |
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| you might want to double check with your recruiter what documents you need. As of 01/09/2010 sealed transcripts were no longer required. You do now have to have a notarized and apostilled photocopy of your degree now as well, not the original. |
Ah, they are working on fixing their system, but giving some of us already here a hard time by subjecting us in the middle of an E-2 already legitimately obtained to new requirements of paying a fairly large fee (60,500 W) to re-verify our diplomas. I think it's an unreasonable request unless renewing or applying for a new visa.
The apostille will fix this issue once and for all if your states secretary of state office verifies a diploma which they probably can and Korean immigration knows this is a consistent fact guaranteeing the the authenticity of the apostille. When I got my CBC apostille, there was no verification of it's authenticity so it's just paper work. |
Im renewing at the moment. I couldn't even get mine done at the British Embassy here as they told me it could take up to 6 weeks. Have had to courier my degree certificate to some solicitors in the u.k, for them to photocopy and get Apostilled in the milton keynes common wealth office place. its cost me $200. Guttered!! O.P I would definitely double check with your agent what you need, and even ask them to double check with immigration. Here is a summary of the new regulations for you O.P:
New E-2 Visa Rules
Compiled by Rob Ouwehand from articles by Jason Smith and Kevin Chung
E2 Visa Rules
(from Korean Insider.com and HiKorea.go.kr)
Some new E2 Visa rules are coming for teaching English in Korea so be ready for the changes to take place as early as this month, but more officially taking effect on September 1st, 2010, and January 1st, 2011. While giving two dates seems unclear, it is better to prepare these documents now, rather that be caught them.
1. State criminal checks for American teachers or provincial checks from Canadian teachers won�t be accepted. FBI and RCMP checks only will be accepted from Jan 1st. If you entered Korea with a provincial or state check, and you want to renew your E-2 visa after January 1, or extend it with your current school, then you�ll have to submit the FBI or RCMP check. Even if you supplied a state criminal check before it looks like they�ll ask for that one. Those can take up to 2 months to get and Immigration accepts it as valid for 6 months after it was issued, so be sure get the timing right. It would seem that South Africans, Australians (with AFP checks), UK citizens (Disclosure Scotland checks), Irish (Garda checks) and New Zealanders with the government handled checks should be fine.
2. Your original degree (come Sept 1st 2010) will not be accepted and you will have to get a notarized and apostille copy (Korean Consulate notary for Canadians). Be sure to get 2 copies: immigration will keep one and one will go to the local board of education in the town where you will be teaching in Korea. Also if you want to renew or extend you will have to get a notarized copy + apostille or likely if in the country you can still get that done by your embassy.
3. The medical check done in Korea after you arrive will start testing for marijuana, but possibly not HIV. After July 15th, Not sure though what the consequences are if you do test positive for Pot or HIV. Will they deport you? Not clear at this stage and probably won�t be till it happens to someone.
4. Looks like you can add up to 5 additional workplaces on your work visa so that might be good for some people who want to teach more and make more, but it likely won�t be an easy process. As far as we have seen only adding a public school is painless in Korea and not adding a private academy or hagwon.
5. University Transcripts are no longer required, starting on September 1.
6. When re-applying for another visa, if your federal criminal background check was approved for a year in Korea, and you spend less than three months outside of Korea before starting another year in Korea, you will not need to submit another criminal background check.
7. Health checks will now test for TBPE (hard drugs like amphetamines heroin and cocaine, as before) and also cannaboids (marijuana).
8. Teachers will no longer have their visa issuing stopped, or their visas canceled, upon a positive HIV test.
This is just a rough guide, and subject to change. Be sure to verify with the original source, the government run Korean Immigration page HiKorea.go.kr |
Hey! I read today that you can use the KCUE's verification service if in Korea and renewing. The blogger called immi on July 20th and was told about these new rules, but was told there is a way around doing it the difficult and expensive way like you are doing. If you haven't paid out all that money, it's worth calling immi to verify you can still use the KCUE diploma verification. I stumbled on this today Googling about the KCUE verifying diplomas.
Read this. http://stafford.squarespace.com/journal/2010/7/20/new-visa-regulations-e2-the-facts.html
| Blogger wrote: |
On this point I rang immigration. They confirmed that once they have received your degree information you won't have to submit it again. In addition I raised the topic of the costly sending of degrees back and forth to get Apostilles. Immigration noted you can get your degree information verified by The Korean Council for University Education. Although one wonders if they are on the same page as Immigration, looking at the KCUE's site, they state that we are unable to process requests by individuals.
Although I see one way of getting around this to be to get your school to get the verification done. The cost of verification ranges between W60000 and W66000 depending on where your degree was issued and you should expect the process to take about 5 weeks. |
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ah who knows mate, it's all a pain in the arse!!! don't think anyone really knows tbh!! I spoke to immigration and they told me it definitely has to be a photocopy, not the original that is apostilled!! I guess back to the O.P's point and something we are both agreeing on is it doesn't matter if your transcripts are sealed o.p 'cos you don't need 'em anymore!! |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| NMonk wrote: |
| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
| NMonk wrote: |
| you might want to double check with your recruiter what documents you need. As of 01/09/2010 sealed transcripts were no longer required. You do now have to have a notarized and apostilled photocopy of your degree now as well, not the original. |
Ah, they are working on fixing their system, but giving some of us already here a hard time by subjecting us in the middle of an E-2 already legitimately obtained to new requirements of paying a fairly large fee (60,500 W) to re-verify our diplomas. I think it's an unreasonable request unless renewing or applying for a new visa.
The apostille will fix this issue once and for all if your states secretary of state office verifies a diploma which they probably can and Korean immigration knows this is a consistent fact guaranteeing the the authenticity of the apostille. When I got my CBC apostille, there was no verification of it's authenticity so it's just paper work. |
Im renewing at the moment. I couldn't even get mine done at the British Embassy here as they told me it could take up to 6 weeks. Have had to courier my degree certificate to some solicitors in the u.k, for them to photocopy and get Apostilled in the milton keynes common wealth office place. its cost me $200. Guttered!! O.P I would definitely double check with your agent what you need, and even ask them to double check with immigration. Here is a summary of the new regulations for you O.P:
New E-2 Visa Rules
Compiled by Rob Ouwehand from articles by Jason Smith and Kevin Chung
E2 Visa Rules
(from Korean Insider.com and HiKorea.go.kr)
Some new E2 Visa rules are coming for teaching English in Korea so be ready for the changes to take place as early as this month, but more officially taking effect on September 1st, 2010, and January 1st, 2011. While giving two dates seems unclear, it is better to prepare these documents now, rather that be caught them.
1. State criminal checks for American teachers or provincial checks from Canadian teachers won�t be accepted. FBI and RCMP checks only will be accepted from Jan 1st. If you entered Korea with a provincial or state check, and you want to renew your E-2 visa after January 1, or extend it with your current school, then you�ll have to submit the FBI or RCMP check. Even if you supplied a state criminal check before it looks like they�ll ask for that one. Those can take up to 2 months to get and Immigration accepts it as valid for 6 months after it was issued, so be sure get the timing right. It would seem that South Africans, Australians (with AFP checks), UK citizens (Disclosure Scotland checks), Irish (Garda checks) and New Zealanders with the government handled checks should be fine.
2. Your original degree (come Sept 1st 2010) will not be accepted and you will have to get a notarized and apostille copy (Korean Consulate notary for Canadians). Be sure to get 2 copies: immigration will keep one and one will go to the local board of education in the town where you will be teaching in Korea. Also if you want to renew or extend you will have to get a notarized copy + apostille or likely if in the country you can still get that done by your embassy.
3. The medical check done in Korea after you arrive will start testing for marijuana, but possibly not HIV. After July 15th, Not sure though what the consequences are if you do test positive for Pot or HIV. Will they deport you? Not clear at this stage and probably won�t be till it happens to someone.
4. Looks like you can add up to 5 additional workplaces on your work visa so that might be good for some people who want to teach more and make more, but it likely won�t be an easy process. As far as we have seen only adding a public school is painless in Korea and not adding a private academy or hagwon.
5. University Transcripts are no longer required, starting on September 1.
6. When re-applying for another visa, if your federal criminal background check was approved for a year in Korea, and you spend less than three months outside of Korea before starting another year in Korea, you will not need to submit another criminal background check.
7. Health checks will now test for TBPE (hard drugs like amphetamines heroin and cocaine, as before) and also cannaboids (marijuana).
8. Teachers will no longer have their visa issuing stopped, or their visas canceled, upon a positive HIV test.
This is just a rough guide, and subject to change. Be sure to verify with the original source, the government run Korean Immigration page HiKorea.go.kr |
Hey! I read today that you can use the KCUE's verification service if in Korea and renewing. The blogger called immi on July 20th and was told about these new rules, but was told there is a way around doing it the difficult and expensive way like you are doing. If you haven't paid out all that money, it's worth calling immi to verify you can still use the KCUE diploma verification. I stumbled on this today Googling about the KCUE verifying diplomas.
Read this. http://stafford.squarespace.com/journal/2010/7/20/new-visa-regulations-e2-the-facts.html
| Blogger wrote: |
On this point I rang immigration. They confirmed that once they have received your degree information you won't have to submit it again. In addition I raised the topic of the costly sending of degrees back and forth to get Apostilles. Immigration noted you can get your degree information verified by The Korean Council for University Education. Although one wonders if they are on the same page as Immigration, looking at the KCUE's site, they state that we are unable to process requests by individuals.
Although I see one way of getting around this to be to get your school to get the verification done. The cost of verification ranges between W60000 and W66000 depending on where your degree was issued and you should expect the process to take about 5 weeks. |
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ah who knows mate, it's all a pain in the arse!!! don't think anyone really knows tbh!! I spoke to immigration and they told me it definitely has to be a photocopy, not the original that is apostilled!! I guess back to the O.P's point and something we are both agreeing on is it doesn't matter if your transcripts are sealed o.p 'cos you don't need 'em anymore!! |
Right on. That's good they done away with transcripts last week. You are 100% dead on. It is a real pain in the arse. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm 7 or 8 months into my visa and requested to produce an FBI finger print CBC to stay until next February. Well, that takes a long while and best done with advance planning. Stay tuned...
Wait.....wait.... a photo copy is a fake!!! |
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