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nukeday



Joined: 13 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
Could one of you basketball fans explain where the excitement in the sport comes from, with the ball going in the basket every 5 seconds? Even when someone chucks it in from quite far out, nobody seems to act like it's a big deal. Someone told me once it was all about the blocking, is this correct? Or is it, as someone in a Woody Allen film said, just 'sitting around watching a bunch of pituitary cases stuff a ball through a hoop'?


what cj said.

it's like soccer fans getting all excited, standing up and shouting for...a near goal.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair, diving in football is embarrassing and it should be dealt with harshly. The bottom line is that it is cheating and not very sporting.
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The excitment comes from the skill in the game. Hitting a shot with someone in your face while on the move is not an easy thing to do. Rebounding is a difficult thing to do when the guy your trying to block(box) out is 265lbs and strong as an ox. The split second decisions that are made running full speed while dribbling with a guy trying to poke the ball away is tough. Denying your man the ball in a man-to man defense or busting your tail to a spot in rotation is a very valuable skill. Then the best part of the game, passing. Many guys can score but the guys that can make the passes are not that common. Being able to squeeze a pass through hands, bodies and legs at the same time your man is cutting backdoor and palcing it in a great spot that he can catch and finish is one of hte toughest thigns to do in the game. All of these things need to be done again and again through out a game. Not just 2 or 3 times. And all players play O and D. So the skills and awarness needs to be there for both ends of the floor.

Again, playing it helps t ounderstand. I don't understand soccer one bit. Guys act like they've jizzed when someone scores a goal. A near goal seems like someone has killed your dog.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can say almost exactly the same thing about football or ice hockey regarding dribbling, passing and shooting.
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea you can.

I guess one of the big differences between hockey and soccer is players play both sides. I know in hockey and soccer there are guys called defense men. These guys mainly,, 75%-85% of the game play in defense. Then there are goalies in each sport guarding the goal at all times.
In basketball it's the team's job to protect the goal. I know in soccer and hockey the other players also play defense but there is no goalie.

Someone said earlier it's all about blocking. No it's not most coaches don't even teach blocking because the guys who can do correctly and are athletic enough to do are few and far between.
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CtotheB



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
Basketball has the opposite problem to football (soccer to you fellas), where it is too high scoring. There are so many baskets in every game that it becomes very tedious.


Would you find it better if the hoop was higher? What if 3 pointers only counted for 2? And 2's for only 1 point? What does the score have anything to do with the sport? If anything Basketball is better for having higher scores because you don't have to deal with ties, which are the epitome of lame.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CtotheB wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
Basketball has the opposite problem to football (soccer to you fellas), where it is too high scoring. There are so many baskets in every game that it becomes very tedious.


Would you find it better if the hoop was higher? What if 3 pointers only counted for 2? And 2's for only 1 point? What does the score have anything to do with the sport? If anything Basketball is better for having higher scores because you don't have to deal with ties, which are the epitome of lame.


I think you misunderstood. It doesn't matter if the baskets were worth 1 or 10 points. It's the frequency of the scoring that makes it dull to watch. Making it more challenging to score would surely provide a better spectacle and also prove how good the players really are. Also, slam dunks might look good on TV replays, but they are an unfair advantage for the lankier players. Ban them, I say!
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brickabrack



Joined: 17 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...anyways

Russia couldn't stop the U.S.
Spain and Argentina got their asses handed to them.
I think Turkey has been the surprise team in this tournament.


And if your theory about 7ftrs was correct, why are close to 90%
of the scoring leaders in the last few decades under 7ft?

I don't really go crzy when I see someone dunk the ball unless it is some amazingly athletic feat from half court with a behind the back 720 rock the cradle type dunk.
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brickabrack



Joined: 17 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and for the record,

I believe futbol players to be the 2nd best athletes on the planet.
Although their is a bit of standing around, running around chasing an
opponent or kicking a ball is something which requires STAMINA.
I didn't see any fatties playing during the FIFA tourney. But the little
bl+ch flops are tiring....in both sports.
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warmachinenkorea



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]Making it more challenging to score would surely provide a better spectacle and also prove how good the players really are
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The good ones are the ones who play an all around game not just scoring. They have to score, board, pass and play D.
Ocsar Roberston is a great example of an all around player. Magic Johnson too.

Also, slam dunks might look good on TV replays, but they are an unfair advantage for the lankier players. Ban them, I say!
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Yea just like we should ban the faster players in soccer and the stronger guys in baseball. As a matter of fact let's just make everyone equal. Then we can all watch chess or poker on T.V with a little more respect.
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