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[Gatsby]

recessiontime wrote:

[captain kirk]

The government are magicians adept at social control. That's the way to stay in power. Dumbed down people who figure there's no point in voting is a fantastic asset as long as they continue to pay taxes. It's like breeding cattle. And the recession is staging a crisis. Then there will be a new order plateau, also engineered, after the engineered crisis. Just like the depression in the thirties caused the small banks to get eaten up by the big banks the result will be fewer people in charge and with a better grip. ESPECIALLY on a populace forced to struggle to pay the bills, with alot of worries about just surviving. Turn more to the hair of the dog that bit them, escapism. Entertainment galore. Anything but what's going on behind the scenes. All that entertainment is also conveniently available and staged. There will be fewer and fewer choices left the more consolidation there is by a smaller group of owners. There won't, eventually, be any America. So regarding America as a democracy and a 'surprisingly strong country' will be irrelevant. One word; 'mired', and not by accident. Can't rely on the government. But with the way things are going the options are being reduced for the individual. Options are good. Diversity is good. Lots of little shops instead of Walmarts is good. Different countries with different currencies is good. American history has the 'settling of the west, the frontier'. It also has 'amalgamation'.

I think the media has everything to do with it. And the fault is not 'in ourselves'. If I was an American (and I'm not) I'd be on the porch in Arkansas with a shotgun 'welcoming' the tax collector. I'd also be inbred and a dumb hick distilling moonshine but hey, at least I wouldn't be working at Walmart.

[captain kirk]

I just got a PM from Gatsby telling me I'm an ignoramus. I just couldn't resist, in the above post, responding to the notion that it's the people's fault and no fault of the media, the people's situation (mired). If that doesn't sound like the baa of a sheep (new term, sheeple) I don't know what does. But such attitudes are the product of the media. But hey, can't blame the media, can only 'blame ourselves'. The government isn't working right or properly. Supposedly the people voted in the government. So what's the problem? Oh, ourselves. That makes alot of sense. Remind me to include self-flaggelation in my repertoire of job readiness skills, hahaha. Oh yeah, there aren't any jobs in America. So go to Korea, abandon ship.

[rollo]

Early 2011 would be my guess, when an economic upturn begins. There are signs of life in the economy now.

No oil has not plateaued, the giant Brazilian fields are just starting to be tapped, more oil is created everyday.

No the Korean economy is not more sound than the U.s.'s . at least not according to banks, financial planners, finance ministers. But what would they know.

Wiki leaks founder is apparently facing rape charges,

Vote!! Vote ! Vote. Not voting is exactly what special interest groups want you to do.

[caniff]

[michi gnome]

when will this recession/depression end?

not any time soon, if ever, I believe.

it's not really even a "recession," it's a paradigm shift

trillions of dollars of derivatives were spread throughout the world by Wall street

phony paper, backed by nothing. most of the banks, except for the big 3 or 4 of

them, are zombies. banks that should have failed.

stimulus is propping it up now, & "austerity" measures that the IMF & world

banks have planned for most countries, including the U.S., are going to be

carried out over the long term.

expect the world to become more neo-feudal, with the super super

grotesquely wealthy on the one hand, and the rest of us serfs on the other,

glad to get a few crumbs to survive

[Epik_Teacher]

[Stan Rogers]

There are lots of crystal ball gazers around, but I really don't think anyone knows the full truth about what's going on. With any kind of economic change there are always winners and losers. The media has always tended to focus on reporting about losers.

There are plenty of winners out there. You just don't hear them crying about it. But I suspect many of them are in China.

[Unposter]

Democrats and Republicans may be two sides of the same "bought" coin but from my perspective the Democrat side is a little nicer. Obama aint all that so far but he is a million times better than Bush. I could really use a respite from the Republicans.

[brickabrack]

Unposter. Tell us why Mr. O is a million times better than Mr. B.

Nicer image? Smarter looking? Not the son of a bush?

"Vote!! Vote ! Vote. Not voting is exactly what special interest groups want you to do."

So, if you agree with Nader policies more than Gore policies....you should vote Nader?

People in a 'free-thinking'/democratic govt voted for Bush. They deserve Bush.

[southernman]

Historically, the first country into a world wide reccessioon is the first country the recovers.

In the latest reccession NZ was officially the first country that statistically went into nationwide reccession. No doubt due to our reliance on high end exports and tourism for our economy.

Things were looking up in NZ for the first quarter of this year, then went down again in the second quarter. So no time soon, anyway.

The blame game is pointless, far to many factors in play. Not the least being greed and looking for a fast buck.

However, I think Wall Street has been tarnished for good. No ones going to believe those self serving parasites any more.

[bucheon bum]

[NM14456]

This is an interesting thread and it's really impossible (as indicated by all of the other topics that "creep into the discussion) to discuss it without considering other issues like energy, the corrupt political system in the States, corporate control and the rampant idiocy at work.

Three blogs that are worth checking out are:

James Howard Kunstler (energy issues)
http://www.kunstler.com/index.php

Charles Hugh Smith (finance and politics)
http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html#jump

Morris Berman (Overall decline in the US)
http://morrisberman.blogspot.com/

These sights are ongoing and there's really a lot to learn between the three.

I think it's hard to ignore the decline of the US at this point. Constant war mongering and serious infrastructure problems will be hard to resolve in a public that is generally stupid and where there isn't a consensus on much of anything.

Another writer worth checking out is Chris Hedges at Truthdig. He writes well on a number of subjects including issues like the culture of "spectacle" and the growth of the plutocracy.

Enjoy?

[Steelrails]

I think what we are seeing now is humanity's normal condition. I think what we saw over the last 60 years was the exception, not the rule.