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| Anyone considering getting a PhD? |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| I hope it works out for you, just have a back up plan. We had a business plan back home, we were legal to work, had a plan, and the money. After reconsidering all the taxes and bribes we would have to pay, plus the stability of the country, we decided to come to Korea. |
No back-up plan this time....it's balls to the wall until we make it work. Sometimes a back-up plan is nothing more than an excuse to fail. We've done our research and know what we're getting into....but failure is not an option, and neither is fear of risk or the unknown. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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PhD = Pile of horse Dung  |
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Thiuda
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| What is SSCI/SCI internationally ranked current publications? |
SSCI refers to the Social Science Citation Index and SCI to the Science Citation Index.
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| Korea isn-t the hot spot it was in the 1990s. |
There are more foreigners in Korea now than there were at any time in the past, so I'm not sure whether this is true. I'm inclined to say that Korea is a hotspot and will continue to be a popular destination well into the future.
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| In addition, I can-t stress enough that some unis, good unis, have problems finding professors. |
If we define as a professor someone with a PhD and a record of publications, rather than someone with a BA/MA, then this strikes me as a good reason to do a PhD. While opportunities for full-time lectureships will decrease, individuals with a PhD will continue to be able to find relatively well paying jobs. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll get my PhD, but for personal satisfaction, not for employment purposes. I've started the coursework and plan to finish sometime before I die. My MA has been surprisingly profitable so far. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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I am sort of sick of studying. I have 2 years left in my MA program. I am going to wait and see how my research paper goes.
I put maybe because the field that I am working in is always looking for people who publish and have doctorates. It just depends if I feel like publishing stuff, or continuing with the teaching.
My field is not TESOL or TEFL, and I would not want anything that has to do with linguistics. |
TWO more years? How long was your MA? |
My MA is in English Education, specifically English Education for full-day English instruction schools like public, charter, private schools you would find in the US. The reason for it being 3 years is: it is for those currently certified to teach in such schools, and aimed at those who have teaching experience. Thus the research paper involves a year researching in our practice. The 1 year program is much easier in its requirements IMO.
I am sort of interested in this field, and I have learned in the field of education there is never enough "good" people out there. As I said, I don't know if I want to be a publisher though, as that is really what is going to get one who has a PhD or Ed.D a job in my field.
I am just sick of studying, as I feel I am always studying for my day to day teaching...though I have thought I might do a doctorate one day when I have enough experience that I can easier do a research project based on my prior knowledge of English Education. |
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Skyblue
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Where you guys doing the Ph.Ds and in what disciplines? |
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Thiuda
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Where you guys doing the Ph.Ds and in what disciplines? |
Korea University, Linguistics |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, in 2012, I am definitely planning on going back to my old university to finish up my PhD. In the meantime, I am trying to find something that I can get published. |
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neilsputnik
Joined: 11 Nov 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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I am currently in the process of applying for a PhD now, for the States and U.K. (Political Communication)
I managed to get a good journal publication out of my MA and I have another one on the way (got the ol' revise and resubmit). So everything going well, before I enroll in fall 2011, I should have two publications in middle tier journals before day one.
I often see a lot of people giving the thumbs down for a PhD, and it is usually on utilitarian grounds, citing opportunity costs etc. This is not an objective framework. That is, not everyone agrees on the criterion used for dismissal.
Of course job prospects and earnings potential have a bearing on any rationally based vocational decision. But commonly overlooked rationales for PhD study are: the intrinsic journey and the joy of learning; the many transferable skills picked up; solid teaching experience acquired from a lot of programs; the chance to follow a passion for deep inquiry and hopefully say something of relevance to a wider academic community. This is not an exhaustive list, but not everything is about money and future jobs benefits. Incidentally, this is the rationale I see a lot on these boards in regard to English teaching in Korea: how much money can you make?
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| neilsputnik wrote: |
Of course job prospects and earnings potential has a bearing on any rationally based vocational decision. But commonly overlooked rationales for PhD study are: the intrinsic journey and the joy of learning; the many transferable skills picked up; solid teaching experience acquired from a lot of programs; the chance to follow a passion for deep inquiry and hopefully say something of relevance to a wider academic community. This is not an exhaustive list, but not everything is about money and future jobs benefits. Incidentally, this is the rationale I see a lot on these boards in regard to English teaching in Korea: how much money can you make? |
+1. If its about the money or benefits academia isn't worth it. When you calculate the total amount of time and effort it takes to get tenure. You can rise to a mid/mid-high position in a private company with almost 3x the salary.
I personally miss the research. I'm definitely gonna head back for a phd... one of these days |
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LAD
Joined: 08 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm ABD and on my way to Korea right now with the first draft of my dissertation and 160 pounds of luggage, mostly books. That should be fine for the first year (working with the core books), but I may need another 60 pounds or more sent to me there depending on feedback from my committee. If things get out of hand I may be ordering from Amazon or wandering around looking for a good library. I'm looking forward to a tiny apartment with no TV, phone, or internet. If I don't learn Korean I'll be hard to distract. |
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Epik_Teacher
Joined: 28 Apr 2010
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| I did the first class of an online Education EdD about 5 years ago. It about drove me crazy! I finished the class OK, but looking at 10 more classes and several for the dissertation, I decided to hell with it! Not worth the money and heartburn. |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| Skyblue wrote: |
| Where you guys doing the Ph.Ds and in what disciplines? |
Yeungnam University--Korean studies (late Joseon history focus) |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| Thiuda wrote: |
| Korea University, Linguistics |
Did you meet my son yet? |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| LAD wrote: |
| I'm ABD and on my way to Korea right now with the first draft of my dissertation and 160 pounds of luggage, mostly books. That should be fine for the first year (working with the core books), but I may need another 60 pounds or more sent to me there depending on feedback from my committee. If things get out of hand I may be ordering from Amazon or wandering around looking for a good library. I'm looking forward to a tiny apartment with no TV, phone, or internet. If I don't learn Korean I'll be hard to distract. |
So many people stop forever at ABD that you see this after their name as a title. I guess it is becasue of the huge amount of work to get to that point. In my case, when I was ABD, I said it meant all but done. So, I done it.  I am Dr. Chicken.  Or is it Chicken, PhD  |
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