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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird. This thread seems to be full of people attacking a single person for saying... nothing bad at all, from what I'm reading.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:

Nothing wrong in showing someone a different angle on life. people get stuck in a perspective and believe it to be reality. Nothing wrong with presenting another view. Funny how their mind jumps to the tree hugging hippy thing as I couldn't be farther from a hippie if I tried.


Yes, but when you say it over and over and over it gets TIRESOME.

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I have studied the aa and na models and the just dont work for most people as they make the person think they are an addict rather than saying that part of them is an addict and that part can be transformed or let go of. The models where people realise they are no longer a drinker , addict or smoker works better. Feel sorry for people who identify themselves as an addict. Fine line but I have seen better models then aa and na.


Fine dude. I wasn't promoting any of them, I was just saying it is up to THAT person to realize s/he has a problem. All those models seem to promote that idea. Correct?

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People need to learn to feel and get past the feelings they are trying to suppress. Once they are dealt with the numbing agent is no longer sought after in most cases.


We get it broken record.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the broken record is the billions of dollars spent on advertising prescription drugs until they become so accepted that people defend them and call people against them hippies or assume that the person must be weird or alternative.

Strange how advertising can create truth and when someone speaks against they get bad vibes from the converted. Yes a few pills of xanax do cause harm and shouldn't be taken lightly. The pattern goes a person takes a few pills and then they end up taking other pills to mask the side effects of the first pills and so on and so on.

The first steps in believing that symptoms are something that require pills was the wrong move. So some of us speak up to help others not go down a bad path. The culture that makes pills acceptable is the people that make money from their sales influencing people that don't know any better.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
Yes a few pills of xanax can cause harm and shouldn't be taken lightly.


I fixed that for you. Not DO. CAN. Everybody is different, dear tree humper.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. wrote:
Yes a few pills of xanax do cause harm and shouldn't be taken lightly. The pattern goes a person takes a few pills and then they end up taking other pills to mask the side effects of the first pills and so on and so on.The culture that makes pills acceptable is the people that make money from their sales influencing people that don't know any better.


What was that again, something about pills? -nods off-.....zzzzzzzzzzz

D.D.'s right though, drugs for mental health seem dubious to say the least, and harsh mucking about. I read some stuff about thorazine and such drugs for loading up mental patients in sanitoriums to keep them controlled. At the outset a young girl, commited, related to her doctor the feeling of being immobilized, as if entombed in her own paralyzed psyche. Out of touch with self, everything is impossible, just paralyzed. Not the self she'd known all her life, entombed in a silent scream. Just the stuff to manage masses of loonies with a minimum of staff. Of course that's not Xanax. I believe the point of this thread is about how to get to sleep and it's working...zzzzzzzzz

Better a Xanax than get a bee in one's bonnet or bats in one's belfry. NYC girl, just ask DD if she makes housecalls.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but she probably brings Enya CDs for ambiance.
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swoodman



Joined: 24 Sep 2009
Location: Reading, United Kingdom

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melatonin capsules - strong herbal supplement
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Hotwire



Joined: 29 Aug 2010
Location: Multiverse

PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pm sent.
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Ralphie



Joined: 24 Mar 2010
Location: Beijing, PRC

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Kalms Sleep' is even better than melantonin. You fall gently into peaceful slumber... available in the UK at most supermarkets and Boots drugstores. Not sure if I'll be able to find them in North America when I head back there for the Christmas holidays. Korean doctors are reluctant to prescribe any sort of sleeping pills for me. Confused
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe people have trouble falling asleep.

TRAIN YOUR BODY. When I first came to Korea, I started work at 4pm and finished at 10pm. I trained my body to stay up until 5-6am and wake up at 1-2pm. That was a bad mistake, and I paid for it. I retrained my body to go to sleep at 11pm and wake up at 8 or 9 am. I tell you by the end of the day I would be exhausted and ready to crash.

Working now, it is hard for me to stay up past 9pm as I am mentally exhausted. If you aren't falling asleep, you aren't working hard enough, and you worry too much about things you have no control over.

Yes, another lesson: don't worry about things that you can't control, especially before bed.

Not tired enough? Stop working part-time hours. Work more. Exercise more.
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again

PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.D. A friendly word of advice, to belittle the posters on daves in general after several of your posts that are basically some sort of rant with almost religious vigor begs the question.

Are you perhaps several steps down the road to recovery yourself?

You really sound like some kind of 'born again' and I'm not knocking born again people, only perhaps, one that sounds like they're preaching..

Hey, even if its just first year Uni I am the centre of the universe and know everything, recovery from that disease/addication can take some time..

Of course, you're right, everyone reacts to medicine diferently, duh.... we've all watched House, Scrubs and countless other medical programmes on TV.

And yes, Pharamacuetical (sp) companies are greedy and subversive.

So what else were you actually trying to say... post after post after post Rolling Eyes
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MattAwesome



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

studying always puts me to sleep. or go for soju. "putting koreans to sleep since 1980."
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's just stress. Some people are sensitive and are prone to taking things personally. Such people are prone to insomnia, and no amount of exercise, green tea, warm milk before bed is going to solve it. You have to sort out the thoughts spinning in your head, that stop you getting to sleep, or waking up because of your subconscious mind.

You have to solve the problems you have, and wait for the next one. It's a bad state of affairs, but that's how it is.

Sleeping/anti-anxiety pills give you a terrible nights sleep. It's more like being knocked out and I feel terrible the next day, really fuzzy in the head.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurtz wrote:
I think it's just stress. Some people are sensitive and are prone to taking things personally. Such people are prone to insomnia, and no amount of exercise, green tea, warm milk before bed is going to solve it. You have to sort out the thoughts spinning in your head, that stop you getting to sleep, or waking up because of your subconscious mind.

You have to solve the problems you have, and wait for the next one. It's a bad state of affairs, but that's how it is.

Sleeping/anti-anxiety pills give you a terrible nights sleep. It's more like being knocked out and I feel terrible the next day, really fuzzy in the head.


That's funny, because I feel GREAT the next day.
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Hotwire



Joined: 29 Aug 2010
Location: Multiverse

PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second what kurtz wrote.

You will find that the vast majority of ppl say the same if you browse some forums on the topic.
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