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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I get fingerprinted at a local police station in Korea?

Yes, but try to find one that's large enough to have someone experienced in taking fingerprints (the instruction form gives you an idea on what your fingerprints should look like). I went to the metropolitan police department in my city and had the fingerprint technician for their CSI division take my prints. It only took about twenty minutes and they were very polite and helpful. Before I arrived, I called tourist information, 1330, and explained my situation. Then when I got to the station, I called the tourism hotline again and this time they explained my situation to a police official.

Do I need an official fingerprint card or can I use a fingerprint form printed out from the FBI's web site?


You can use a fingerprint form printed out from the FBI's web site, but do multiple sets, preferably three (3) in case some get rejected.

see: http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/faqs.html
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Additional Notes on Getting an Apostille for a Copy of Your Diploma

It's been previously stated that the diploma copy has to be notarized before applying for an apostille.

Besides banks, etc., ask your campus registrar if they can notarize it.

I emailed a copy of my diploma to my university registrar. She printed it out, notarized it free of charge and sent it out by certified mail the very same day.

Another option to consider. If you won't need to meet the new diploma requirement until next year because you are in the middle of a contract and plan to renew, you might wait until you complete your fingerprint request and send both in at the same time to the U.S. State Department for an apostille.

I heard that a Korean Consulate will authenticate my diploma?

That rule applies to Canadians, not Americans. Applicants from the USA have a different procedure for authentication (effective 1 Sep 2010) which is a copy of their diploma with apostille. Original diplomas are no longer acceptable.

Sealed transcripts are also no longer required.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SandyG21 wrote:
Nature girl that list you made is excellent!
Thank you.
I am trying to make lots of jokes and be happy throughout this process - otherwise I could lose my mind.
I have already found out I have to call tons of offices here in the states to find out who does many of these things - so really the states can be just as disorganized.
Now I have never heard if my library has a notary.
I have always used the banks.
So I know where to get apostilles (yes get all the documents together and do them all at once and even multiple copies if needed)
I know where to get notary.
Now I must find out who authenticates.


That would be the county clerk where the notary is registered. you might not even NEED to do that. Rules vary by state. Call the Sec of State. IL just changed its laws. Before you didn't have to have it authenticated, now you do.

runthegauntlet wrote:
That's incorrect. The diploma itself must have an apostille if you're sending the original.

I've done it twice now.


AS have I, twice, my degree does NOT have an apostillise.I've worked at a public school and university. I've only shown the original, without an apostillise and shown them transcripts as well. My degree DOES have a gold seal on it from my university, a private school, so maybe that's why they don't require it? BUt it's not a state seal, it's a private, religious one in Latin. I sent it back in 2007, and then again this year in January. Didn't have an apostillise on it either time, still doesn't in fact. However, it does have the entire back stamped, sealed, and signed by Peruvian govt officials, so maybe that's why. BUT, none of the peopel at my uni who are on E2 or E1 were required to have their original degree apostillised. That's odd that you did.

My degree is from the US, is yours from Canada? Maybe they have different rules for different countries.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

runthegauntlet wrote:
Yes, it definitely needs an apostille. Got mine from my Sec. of State. First it had to be notarized, then the notary had to be certified, and THEN I was able to get it apostilled.

Quite the runaround. Seems like it's essentially a signature to certify a signature that certifies the signature.... Ugh.


They did that to your ACTUAL degree? Signing it? After my degree got mutilated like that I ended up getting a new one, a replacement copy. that's the first time I've heard of anyone needing that done to their actual degree here in Korea.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

questionmark wrote:
Some Additional Notes on Getting an Apostille for a Copy of your Diploma

It's been previously stated that the diploma copy has to be notarized before applying for an apostille.

Besides banks, etc., ask your campus registrar if they can notarize it.

I emailed a copy of my resume to my university registrar. She printed it out, notarized it free of charge and sent it out by certified mail the very same day..


Hang on, I'm confused. They notarised your CV?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, my bad. I meant "my diploma" (corrected).

Saved time from hunting down a notary.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They notarised the actual diploma or a copy of it?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
They notarised the actual diploma or a copy of it?


emailed a copy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, it's been a LONG week Smile Almost Chuseok. I think it's odd that runtheguanlet needed to get his ACTUAL degree apostillised. Thought you did too. Never mind
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries.

The challenge is keeping up with questions that were covered earlier in this thread. Once these posts go on for awhile, it's a lot of content for new readers to wade through.

I'm wondering if it would be better to start a blog with a search engine so readers could find the answers to their questions more quickly.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

questionmark wrote:
Original diplomas are no longer acceptable.


I keep saying this is incorrect. I've pointed it out on the immigration website and everything.

Original diplomas WITHOUT an apostille are not accepted. You can send your original diploma with apostille. I literally did it just last week.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
runthegauntlet wrote:
Yes, it definitely needs an apostille. Got mine from my Sec. of State. First it had to be notarized, then the notary had to be certified, and THEN I was able to get it apostilled.

Quite the runaround. Seems like it's essentially a signature to certify a signature that certifies the signature.... Ugh.


They did that to your ACTUAL degree? Signing it? After my degree got mutilated like that I ended up getting a new one, a replacement copy. that's the first time I've heard of anyone needing that done to their actual degree here in Korea.


Yeah, the notary signed and stamped the back of it. Then stapled the apostille to it.

I had it first done right at the end of 2008 when they first introduced the new apostille rules and the people I talked to in Korea (new boss, etc.) and the consulate here weren't sure about the actual copy thing. I was told to definitely have the original just in case.

The notary thought it was a sad thing to do...

Obviously you don't need the original.... Embarassed... but at that time, well, when the visa laws change chaos ensues!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:


runthegauntlet wrote:
That's incorrect. The diploma itself must have an apostille if you're sending the original.

I've done it twice now.


AS have I, twice, my degree does NOT have an apostillise.I've worked at a public school and university. I've only shown the original, without an apostillise and shown them transcripts as well. My degree DOES have a gold seal on it from my university, a private school, so maybe that's why they don't require it? BUt it's not a state seal, it's a private, religious one in Latin. I sent it back in 2007, and then again this year in January. Didn't have an apostillise on it either time, still doesn't in fact. However, it does have the entire back stamped, sealed, and signed by Peruvian govt officials, so maybe that's why. BUT, none of the peopel at my uni who are on E2 or E1 were required to have their original degree apostillised. That's odd that you did.



Mine's from the U.S.

Yeah, 2007 they didn't have the apostille thing. I sent mine in as it was. Ah, the good ole days.

When they changed the rules in '08 is when I did it the first time. But who knows. Different people having done different things seems par for the course concerning immigration in Korea. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are not accepting an original diploma at all?

See recruiters tell me to get an original - originals are on superthick paper that is sort of textured.

If I make a copy for 10 cents it is some flimsy thing - really anyone could fake something like that more easily than the original - though of course someone could buy fancy paper and use the multicolor ink on a fake copy too.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

questionmark wrote:

The challenge is keeping up with questions that were covered earlier in this thread. Once these posts go on for awhile, it's a lot of content for new readers to wade through.

I'm wondering if it would be better to start a blog with a search engine so readers could find the answers to their questions more quickly.


QM: with functioning communities, the system they always settle on is a 2-part system: some quick quasi-realtime individualistic system (a mailing list, a newsgroup, a forum, IRC channels), and then some permanent communal centralized system (a wiki, a FAQ).

For example, Usenet newsgroups had their famous FAQs. Wikipedia has its Talk: pages feeding articles. Business meetings have rapporteurs. You can probably name other examples.

DESLC has the first part down pat, but there seems to be no second part. What wiki is there? There's wiki.galbijim.com , I suppose, but that's not really used. No one is stepping up to read through threads, carefully segregate US details from Canadian details, take into account corrections in later posts, etc.
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