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BoholDiver
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 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: Anyone else here....? |
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Is anyone else here shocked by the number of threads on Dave's about people with criminal backgrounds?
DOAs seem common, but other charges? Maybe these criminal checks really are necessary. |
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Wildbore
Joined: 17 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else here....? |
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
Is anyone else here shocked by the number of threads on Dave's about people with criminal backgrounds?
DOAs seem common, but other charges? Maybe these criminal checks really are necessary. |
They are necessary. The "state-wide check" easily allowed many scumbags in the USA to circumvent Korean immigration law.
Who wants criminals teaching their children? Certainly not me, and I'm glad the FBI check will get many of these disgraceful individuals out of Korea.
Yet, instead of applying for pardons like a decent, honest person would do, all we hear is complaining.......... it's really a disgrace. |
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murmanjake
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Examples, please, of all these scumbag criminals from the USA who slipped past Korean immigration.
Were these scumbags maybe guilty of underage consumption, or perhaps they once urinated in public?
Not all states will grant pardons or expunge your record, and those that do can't guarantee that the arrest still won't show up on an FBI check. The crappy thing that many are complaining about is that you can be booked and fingerprinted, have the charges dismissed, but still be denied a visa. And this simply because Korean immi does not have the wherewithal(or desire) to differentiate between dismissed charges(not a criminal) and a guilty verdict(criminal). Innocent until proven guilty? Nope.
Sure the state-wide checks were a major loophole, but these FBI checks are major difficulty for prospective teachers from the US. They are time-consuming and unnecessarily exclusive.
Bohol: what's a DOA? |
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Koharski
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Joined: 20 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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DOA= Dead On Arrival
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else here....? |
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| Wildbore wrote: |
| BoholDiver wrote: |
Is anyone else here shocked by the number of threads on Dave's about people with criminal backgrounds?
DOAs seem common, but other charges? Maybe these criminal checks really are necessary. |
They are necessary. The "state-wide check" easily allowed many scumbags in the USA to circumvent Korean immigration law.
Who wants criminals teaching their children? Certainly not me, and I'm glad the FBI check will get many of these disgraceful individuals out of Korea.
Yet, instead of applying for pardons like a decent, honest person would do, all we hear is complaining.......... it's really a disgrace. |
But the Korean government won't do anything about those teaching in Korea on tourist visas. That's how many criminals from other countries get around the criminal checks. Close all of the loopholes, eh? |
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mm
Joined: 01 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Wildbore is of the stock that thinks he is the only smart, hardworking foreigner in Korea and everyone else are losers. Classic example of a busybody with low self esteem. |
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air76
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| murmanjake wrote: |
| Were these scumbags maybe guilty of underage consumption, or perhaps they once urinated in public? |
+1
I personally don't have a criminal record, but there is a huge distinction between being a pedophile or heroin dealer and getting caught with pot once or having a DUI. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| A criminal record usually means the person was convicted of a felony. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Actually to what extent should people with DUI's be kept out of the job force? You really need to think about this one. Especially with the .08 definition of being intoxicated, or whatever it is.
If the Korean government wants to keep DUI convicts out then so be it, but claims that these people and other people are criminals? Come on grow a heart!!! |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Police Chief Wiggum mistake. DWI.
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DOA= Dead On Arrival
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone else here....? |
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You can't really do anything about tourists. If you start requirig criminal checks for them too, you won't have any.
If Korea didn't have their blood money system, so many Koreans would have criminal records too. If the amount is less than 3 million won, it is sealed after 3 years.
| sojusucks wrote: |
| Wildbore wrote: |
| BoholDiver wrote: |
Is anyone else here shocked by the number of threads on Dave's about people with criminal backgrounds?
DOAs seem common, but other charges? Maybe these criminal checks really are necessary. |
They are necessary. The "state-wide check" easily allowed many scumbags in the USA to circumvent Korean immigration law.
Who wants criminals teaching their children? Certainly not me, and I'm glad the FBI check will get many of these disgraceful individuals out of Korea.
Yet, instead of applying for pardons like a decent, honest person would do, all we hear is complaining.......... it's really a disgrace. |
But the Korean government won't do anything about those teaching in Korea on tourist visas. That's how many criminals from other countries get around the criminal checks. Close all of the loopholes, eh? |
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murmanjake
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:20 am Post subject: |
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^^ I don't think that's what sojusucks meant.
He said immigration should do something about illegal teachers on tourist visas. Not tourists who happen to be criminals.
Are illegal teachers a large source of crime? I don't know that any better than I know how much crime legal teachers are actually responsible for.
Would taking action to remove them be consistent with increasing restrictions on legal teachers? Yes. So why don't they do something about it? |
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