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[beck's]

Molly Norris, an American cartoonist, is in hiding. She fears for her life at the hands of Islamists and almost no one in authority seems to be standing up for her.

See the article below:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Examiner-Editorial-Government-and-journalists-cower-at-threats-to-cartoonist.html

[stilicho25]

It's sick. The constitutional rights of the mosque 51 project are trumpeted every day on the news, and rightly so, but where are Molly Norris' rights? She used freedom of expression, and now she has had to change her identity, and there is almost nothing on it in the media. Something is deeply flawed with our politics, and I am sure it has to do with the multi-kult crowd.

[rollo]

It is sick and the media Should give this more mention. I blame people who get overwrought about the teachings of old books. The threats to Abortion doctors are just as sick. Some of them have been gunned down. Where are the so called moderate Christians when that happens?

[Leon]

What does this have to do with politics. The woman is an idiot, free speech or no. No one is saying she can't say those things, but if she didn't know the consequences then she's paying for her ignorance. This isn't muslims, its terrorists. Journalists are killed in Mexico and across the world for reporting about criminals, but do we say that Mexicans killed them?

[guava]

This guy isn't hiding, plus he's advocating the elimination of journalists

Video of Kuwaiti professor preaching extreme hate and violence
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9fb_1285022412

"Do not repeat these despicable things in your columns or in your articles, or else we will take the following measures against you"

[Leon]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/world/americas/21mexico.html

Where are all the posts about how extreme Mexicans are?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

How about how evil Russians are?

Of course not, that'd be racist.

[stilicho25]

Leon, it is not the same. Mexicans are not restricting our freedom of speech by threatening the safety of our journalists, they are killing their own journalists. Crazy fanatics traveling around the world killing people cause they read it was cool in an old book is a bit different from a druglord killing the local reporter cause he was on to him, no?

Just to make clear though, I don't blame all muslims for this. Just the nutty ones.

[Sergio Stefanuto]

Am I expected to sympathize?

If you provoke Muslim extremists - knowing that there will be a violent reaction, and possibly against oneself - and there is a violent reaction, then the perpetrator has been very foolish.

If Muslim extremists are unable to tolerate mockery of their religion without becoming violent, then that's their problem, but it doesn't justify deliberately provoking them.

If you're going to take the piss out of Islam in public, then fair enough, but don't expect sympathy from me if it gets you into trouble

[Wishmaster]

Oh, so we should just let extremists dictate policy to us? All because they might be nuts enough to blow us up. Hmmm...hell, maybe we should adopt a similar policy to employment. Either give me a job at your company or I will bomb it. Would that fly?

[beck's]

Leon and Sergio have interesting points although very wrongheaded.

What if we were to apply the same standards to blacks during the Jim Crow days. Well, blacks have the right to vote under the constitution but they are idiots, constitutional rights or no, to provoke the KKK. The blacks who were tied to train tracks and lynched in other ways were just paying for their ignorance. If they provoked white extremists, knowing that there would be a violent reaction, then the provoker was very foolish.

What we need to realize is that drawing Mohammed is contrary to Sharia law. By forcing western journalists, who advocate this, into hiding the radical Imams are imposing de facto Sharia on the US.

In the western journalistic tradition is is the job of the editorial cartoonist to provoke and to make us question our values and our points of view. That is his/her function and this is a very old and honoured tradition going back to Punch or even further back.

What is disturbing is that B. Hussein Obama has said nothing. It is HIS job to defend the US constitution although he can't be totally condemned for this failure as he recently defended the right of Imam Rauf to build a mosque on Ground Zero.

I am not implying here by using his middle name that Obama is a Muslim. I mean to say, his father was a Muslim and his stepfather was a Muslim and he spent his formative years studying in a Madrass but that in NO WAY makes him a Muslim. Obama is a Christian who spent much time in the pews of Pastor Wright, the race baiting, America hating minister who now forms Obama's world view.

[stilicho25]

Freedom of speech should be absolute. If someone has trouble accepting that, they can feel free to exit the country.

[On the other hand]

[Leon]

I don't see where the government enters into this. No one has taken away this journalists RIGHT to free speech. What should the government do? Its a law enforcement issue, not a presidential one. Its an unfortunate situation, but the women is dumb and insensitive. Just because you have the right to poke a hornets nest doesn't mean you should. This was a long time ago, until, and if, she is killed it isn't very interesting news. Media figures get death threats all the time.

[stilicho25]

It's not Joe blow. Its a group. A group deciding on what can be said or written enforcing it's decisions through violence.

[Leon]