|
Korean Job Discussion Forums "The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
TJ
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
|
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: Teaching in a public school |
|
|
I taught for 2 years at a hagwan and that was not particularly enjoyable. Then I joined EPIK.
My first year with EPIK ( my 3rd year in Korea) was marginally better. I did not have a co-teacher and discipline in a class of 40 was a problem. Also the school tended to forget that I was there. For example, sometimes they did not tell me that a class had been cancelled. This meant, on occasion, I was left standing in the classroom wondering where the @#*% my students were.
This is my 4th year in Korea and I am still with EPIK, but in a different school. It's so much better. The staff and students are great and I really enjoy being here.
I thoroughly recommend EPIK, PROVIDED YOU GET A GOOD SCHOOL, like my present one. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
|
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Yep, good post TJ. This is the problem w/EPIK vs. JET: JET is highly standardized while w/EPIK it's a crazy crapshoot w/no central command. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
|
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Can you control your location at all if you sign up with EPIK? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
|
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| You can request the location of the province or major city that you would prefer being posted to. Exception: Seoul! Ya ain't gonna get it! Getting an offer to be placed in your preferred location, though, doesn't guarantee that your employer(i.e. who you actually enter into a contract with) will be a good one! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
TJ
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
|
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Mosley wrote: |
| Yep, good post TJ. This is the problem w/EPIK vs. JET: JET is highly standardized while w/EPIK it's a crazy crapshoot w/no central command. |
Mosley, you are correct about EPIK being disorganised. However, there are pockets of excellence in the EPIK organisation. I'm referring mostly to the individual schools. Some are bad, the majority could be rated as OK and a few are simply great.
This time it seems like I've struck gold. Hope I'm not disillusioned some time in the future. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
TJ
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
|
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| Can you control your location at all if you sign up with EPIK? |
Zyzyfer, You can request your first, second and third choice of the province where you would like to work. Normally you will not be told if your request has been granted until you complete the orientation course. Then you will be interviewed by a group of provincial supervisors and 'offered' a city or town. 'Offered' usually means you are told where you will be located.
You can refuse to accept a location but, unless they are desperate or you have particular skills they want, a refusal can mean you are out of a job.
With regard to Seoul, you can ask for Seoul but it is very popular and your chances of getting this location are not good - but then again you may be lucky.
Of course, if you apply direct to a province you may get lucky as I did and just happen to apply when they have a vacancy. That way you will enter the EPIK organisation 'out of season' so to speak. (EPIK normally only recruits once or twice a year)
If you have more questions feel free to PM me. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
|
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
My College job Is dirt easy. 2 hrs per day. Luckly, I don't have to be there when I'm not teaching! Also, lucky I have my own desk with internet...I might of had to sit in one of those PC bongs all day  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
|
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| Can you control your location at all if you sign up with EPIK? |
Doable, but not common. It involves homework & string-pulling. Because the system is so arbitrary, rules can be bent. If you can sell your chosen local district office on the desirability of hiring you & only you, they can make it happen.
I did it. I worked up recommendations from the person leaving the position & her co-teacher, & introduced myself to the supervisor. A nice letter of reference from my wjn helped too. I got assurances up the ladder that there would be no 'surprises' & in fact I moved into my new apartment before I went to orientation.
Alternatively, find a school now that is affiliated with epik but teacherless & its quite possible to enter epik through the back door, but this is likelier in smaller, more remote communities. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
|
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Mosley, what is JET? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
|
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
It sounds like a lot of work to choose your location through EPIK. Thanks for the tips.
tomato: JET is Japan's version of EPIK. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
|
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| To be exact, EPIK(1995) is Korea's version of JET(1987). Or, as I'm wont to say, EPIK is rather like JET's slow & simple little brother.... |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
sheeon
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Location: korea
|
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I would choose EPIK over any hagwon jobs, and even most Uni offers. Level 1 pays 2.3 million + 500,000 for housing (per month: bigger cities outside of Metropolitan area) 22 hours (before tax) plus extra payment (around 1-2 million) for doing summer vacation workshops.
When workshops are finished you only teach around 15 hours a week.
You get to co-teach, but it varies from year to year.
I've been doing it for 4 years, no complaints thus far.
This year's contract will offer 100,000 more for level 1 teachers.
That adds up to nearly 3 million won. (2.9 to be exact, b/tax) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
CanadaCommando

Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Location: People's Republic of C.C.
|
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:35 am Post subject: |
|
|
K, so I am working for one of those private "public" school (u know what I mean) and I find its a good gig, though not as good as EPIC apparently.
I get 2.1 plus a kick ass pad, teach for 20hrs a week, get a month of in summer, in the winter, and another sprinkled throughout with exam times and such. Though I do gotta be at school for the full forty hours like alotta other teachers, my classes are split in half so I only have 20 students.
Aside from the relative low pay, one issue I have is my kids: I teach 20 different classes, each once a week, which means about 400 kids...I got like 10 names down. Kids say hi to me in the street, I have no idea if I teach them or not.
One of the HUGE advantages though is you are not working for a hogwan, therefore Education is not a result of finance. Your bosses dont arrange classes by $ signs, but rather by grades. Huge improvement that way over my hogwan days |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|