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I work in the public schools, its much much better
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TJ



Joined: 10 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:30 pm    Post subject: Teaching in a public school Reply with quote

I taught for 2 years at a hagwan and that was not particularly enjoyable. Then I joined EPIK.

My first year with EPIK ( my 3rd year in Korea) was marginally better. I did not have a co-teacher and discipline in a class of 40 was a problem. Also the school tended to forget that I was there. For example, sometimes they did not tell me that a class had been cancelled. This meant, on occasion, I was left standing in the classroom wondering where the @#*% my students were.

This is my 4th year in Korea and I am still with EPIK, but in a different school. It's so much better. The staff and students are great and I really enjoy being here.

I thoroughly recommend EPIK, PROVIDED YOU GET A GOOD SCHOOL, like my present one.
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, good post TJ. This is the problem w/EPIK vs. JET: JET is highly standardized while w/EPIK it's a crazy crapshoot w/no central command.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you control your location at all if you sign up with EPIK?
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can request the location of the province or major city that you would prefer being posted to. Exception: Seoul! Ya ain't gonna get it! Getting an offer to be placed in your preferred location, though, doesn't guarantee that your employer(i.e. who you actually enter into a contract with) will be a good one!
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TJ



Joined: 10 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mosley wrote:
Yep, good post TJ. This is the problem w/EPIK vs. JET: JET is highly standardized while w/EPIK it's a crazy crapshoot w/no central command.


Mosley, you are correct about EPIK being disorganised. However, there are pockets of excellence in the EPIK organisation. I'm referring mostly to the individual schools. Some are bad, the majority could be rated as OK and a few are simply great.
This time it seems like I've struck gold. Hope I'm not disillusioned some time in the future.
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TJ



Joined: 10 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
Can you control your location at all if you sign up with EPIK?


Zyzyfer, You can request your first, second and third choice of the province where you would like to work. Normally you will not be told if your request has been granted until you complete the orientation course. Then you will be interviewed by a group of provincial supervisors and 'offered' a city or town. 'Offered' usually means you are told where you will be located.

You can refuse to accept a location but, unless they are desperate or you have particular skills they want, a refusal can mean you are out of a job.

With regard to Seoul, you can ask for Seoul but it is very popular and your chances of getting this location are not good - but then again you may be lucky.

Of course, if you apply direct to a province you may get lucky as I did and just happen to apply when they have a vacancy. That way you will enter the EPIK organisation 'out of season' so to speak. (EPIK normally only recruits once or twice a year)

If you have more questions feel free to PM me.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My College job Is dirt easy. 2 hrs per day. Luckly, I don't have to be there when I'm not teaching! Also, lucky I have my own desk with internet...I might of had to sit in one of those PC bongs all day Shocked
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
Can you control your location at all if you sign up with EPIK?


Doable, but not common. It involves homework & string-pulling. Because the system is so arbitrary, rules can be bent. If you can sell your chosen local district office on the desirability of hiring you & only you, they can make it happen.

I did it. I worked up recommendations from the person leaving the position & her co-teacher, & introduced myself to the supervisor. A nice letter of reference from my wjn helped too. I got assurances up the ladder that there would be no 'surprises' & in fact I moved into my new apartment before I went to orientation.

Alternatively, find a school now that is affiliated with epik but teacherless & its quite possible to enter epik through the back door, but this is likelier in smaller, more remote communities.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mosley, what is JET?
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like a lot of work to choose your location through EPIK. Thanks for the tips.

tomato: JET is Japan's version of EPIK.
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be exact, EPIK(1995) is Korea's version of JET(1987). Or, as I'm wont to say, EPIK is rather like JET's slow & simple little brother....
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sheeon



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would choose EPIK over any hagwon jobs, and even most Uni offers. Level 1 pays 2.3 million + 500,000 for housing (per month: bigger cities outside of Metropolitan area) 22 hours (before tax) plus extra payment (around 1-2 million) for doing summer vacation workshops.
When workshops are finished you only teach around 15 hours a week.
You get to co-teach, but it varies from year to year.
I've been doing it for 4 years, no complaints thus far.
This year's contract will offer 100,000 more for level 1 teachers.
That adds up to nearly 3 million won. (2.9 to be exact, b/tax)
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CanadaCommando



Joined: 13 Feb 2004
Location: People's Republic of C.C.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

K, so I am working for one of those private "public" school (u know what I mean) and I find its a good gig, though not as good as EPIC apparently.

I get 2.1 plus a kick ass pad, teach for 20hrs a week, get a month of in summer, in the winter, and another sprinkled throughout with exam times and such. Though I do gotta be at school for the full forty hours like alotta other teachers, my classes are split in half so I only have 20 students.
Aside from the relative low pay, one issue I have is my kids: I teach 20 different classes, each once a week, which means about 400 kids...I got like 10 names down. Kids say hi to me in the street, I have no idea if I teach them or not.
One of the HUGE advantages though is you are not working for a hogwan, therefore Education is not a result of finance. Your bosses dont arrange classes by $ signs, but rather by grades. Huge improvement that way over my hogwan days
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