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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:00 pm Post subject: Good Bye to DVDs & CDs? |
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In the news!
1) Netflix has arrived in Canada offering unlimited movies on demand to your TV or compter for $7.95 / month. (This price is cheaper than in the U.S. they said on te news. Hmmm? That's odd) http://www.netflix.ca/?mqso=80028055&OVRAW=netflix%20canada&OVKEY=netflix%20canada&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=65088121012&OVKWID=474864910012
On the TV news, video rental club owners said that they expected to be out of business in 2 years.
2) Blockbuster Video files for bankrupsy in the U.S.
What visions do you have for the future of music, movies and TV? It looks like music & video stores will all shut down too I think. Why buy a movie on dvd when you can just pay $8 / month and get it on demand whenever you want?
Why the hell would you pay $15 for a cd that has 2 good songs and 10 filler when you can spend $2 to get the two songs off ITunes or download the whole album for free with a torrent?
I guess bands will still record "albums" to use as promotional tools for their gig since they won't make much money from them.
Maybe bands will not have the budgets to make elaborate recordings with loads of session musicians in the studio. Will great music die? |
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jhuntingtonus
Joined: 09 Dec 2008 Location: Jeonju
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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There was an article in the New York Times called "the future of music" or some such. It said that albums haven't been real moneymakers for some time now, that they are now and will continue making money mostly from premium content and concerts. I doubt that CDs will become extinct in the next ten years or so but who knows? |
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Yahowho
Joined: 21 Jan 2010 Location: Beside the McDonalds
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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The music industry is certainly changing. Radiohead are the first band that spring to my mind when thinking of alternative ways to market/distribute their music. They ran the risk of giving their last album, In Rainbows, away free, and ended up turning a huge profit.
It is, however, sad to see a day when a hard copy is no longer required. I always felt that going to a music shop and systematically rifling through the alphabetic arrangement of CD's to be a substantial part of the experience. Everyone remembers the first album they bought. Not only can I not remember my first download, I can't even remember my last one (and it was inside the last 24 hours). Where once I was a music lover, now I am a digital thief.
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And Green Day - Dookie was the one that popped my cherry. Still a classic...  |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yahowho wrote: |
It is, however, sad to see a day when a hard copy is no longer required. I always felt that going to a music shop and systematically rifling through the alphabetic arrangement of CD's to be a substantial part of the experience. Everyone remembers the first album they bought. Not only can I not remember my first download, I can't even remember my last one (and it was inside the last 24 hours). Where once I was a music lover, now I am a digital thief.
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I think a lot of people feel that way. With the album jackets, I guess I felt like I was buying a piece of art. You held it in your hands and said "Here I have the new album buy (artist's name)." You felt like you owned a piece of that artist.
In the record store, you would also get exposed to other artists that they played in the store. I remember first listening to Neil Young that way when I was a high school student. I heard Southern Man from the After The Gold Rush album.
Now you download an mp3 file that you can't see or touch. If there is artwork, it looks like crap on your computer screen. You can say we've defiitely lost something with digital technology. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: In my Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Today I was listening to a Vancouver radio station and an ad promoted guaranteed DVD copies of Robin Hood for rent this week! Robin Hood! That movie came out back in the spring didn't it? Seems like ages ago. I can't believe the lag time still exists for movies going from theater to DVD. I had spent years in Korea getting movies on disc within weeks of their release. Video stores back home ought to go the way of the dinosaur. |
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jhicks99
Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I just hope bands continue to make full albums and don't just focus on trying to generate as many hits as possible discarding the stuff that won't get airplay. My favourite songs are never the singles. |
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Location: Multiverse
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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They (record companies and film distibuters) must be taking huge hits in profits.
Take me as a prime example.
Non techie average pc user who always bought new cd's for music and went to the cinema often and bought dvds.
Since I got a new laptop and installed utorrents 3 months ago I doubt (heck I KNOW) I will never buy another dvd again as long as I can download good versions for free, never buy a cd again and will only go to the cinema for really good films for the experience and atmosphere.
So times me buy how many other people there are like me and that must add up to a lot of lost clams...
Conversely, a friend told me that actually the poeple who download the most are the same people that still buy cd's and dvd's also. Not sure if that's based on factual research though. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'm just hoping it all resolves into straightforward transaction between artist and fan.
Artist has a website. That website has lots of content which the fan would be interested in accessing.....e.g. downloadable music and video. Concert videos old and new. Writings and musings. Ticket bookings.......... As well as an online store where actual things like traditional CD's/vinyl and posters can be bought.
Fees could be charged on a per item basis or an annual membership fee.
Maybe $20 per year?
The record companies have had their day......they're barely needed anymore. Industries don't last forever....especially those who depended on technology.
Some of the jobs lost by record companies closing would be replaced by artists hiring website creation people, concert video crews, small-time studio staff. You only need a few thousand dollars of recording equipment to do professional quality recordings.
If a band, or even a visual artist, has a good website with good content they should do pretty well.
It won't stop illegal downloading........nothing will really......but I'd certainly pay $20 per year to my favorite artists for access to their interesting website.
Hell, I bought a record and/or a CD a week for about 15 years.......I gave thousands of GBP's to the record companies.......maybe a maximum of 4% of that went to my artists......that sucks. |
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Mr. Peabody
Joined: 24 Sep 2010 Location: here
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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I'm with eamo on this one.
I spent a serious amount of money on records and CD's prior to the invention of the Internet.
At one point in my early 30's, (circa 1993) my music collection consisted of about 500 vinyl records and 750 CD's that were all bought and paid for through normal music stores.
Not to mention the massive amount of $ I gave to Maxell, TDK and Memorex, just so I could listen to my music in my car!
It's their turn to figure it out. |
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crosbystillsstash
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:45 am Post subject: |
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The future is already here.
HD media player neworked to wifi router, connected to HD TV with true audio decoder and nice speaker sys.
Torrents download what ever I want fast as here in seoul.
,I only pay for internet, no cable tv or bill for movies extra.
The media player plays blueray images from the build in drive or any other file stored on any PC in the house via the network. Also has all my MP3 files, but I usually listen to HD audio or DTS wave files if I can get em. I wish I could find more. Not the UPmix stuff either. |
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sheriffadam
Joined: 10 May 2010 Location: Busan
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:38 am Post subject: |
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crosbystillsstash wrote: |
The future is already here.
HD media player neworked to wifi router, connected to HD TV with true audio decoder and nice speaker sys.
Torrents download what ever I want fast as here in seoul.
,I only pay for internet, no cable tv or bill for movies extra.
The media player plays blueray images from the build in drive or any other file stored on any PC in the house via the network. Also has all my MP3 files, but I usually listen to HD audio or DTS wave files if I can get em. I wish I could find more. Not the UPmix stuff either. |
you're right it does,
until no one is making new movies for you to rip off and download? no more bands making new music to listen too? Not a personal attack just a 'bigger picture view' maybe we can all be happy listening to all the music/movies that have ever been produced and not worry about 'new stuff' ??? |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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sheriffadam wrote: |
crosbystillsstash wrote: |
The future is already here.
HD media player neworked to wifi router, connected to HD TV with true audio decoder and nice speaker sys.
Torrents download what ever I want fast as here in seoul.
,I only pay for internet, no cable tv or bill for movies extra.
The media player plays blueray images from the build in drive or any other file stored on any PC in the house via the network. Also has all my MP3 files, but I usually listen to HD audio or DTS wave files if I can get em. I wish I could find more. Not the UPmix stuff either. |
you're right it does,
until no one is making new movies for you to rip off and download? no more bands making new music to listen too? Not a personal attack just a 'bigger picture view' maybe we can all be happy listening to all the music/movies that have ever been produced and not worry about 'new stuff' ??? |
I'd say the movie producers are doing plenty well enough from Cinema receipts and TV rights. When they had the massive pre-internet profits from video sales as well, do you think all that was re-invested into new movies? I doubt it.....much more likely pocketed by the money men.
The death of the cinema was predicted before.....when TV came out and then again when VCR's came out.....it has always lasted because it's something people continue to want to do....
As for chance of there being no new music???? The internet has actually made the opposite happen......there are now thousands of 'Myspace' bands who might not have ever lasted more than a few months but they keep going due to their web profile......the only new music that we might see less of is packaged-pop....because it traditionally requires a lot of promotion and record company clout to get that dross drummed into the teenagers.....ah well.....cry me a river.
I see a very bright future for movies and music.......
Even if the big movie companies do ever feel a genuine squeeze from downloading, I think that might turn out to be a good thing....it might encourage them to get back to story-based film-making instead of these $200 million special effect bore-fests.....
The technology and equipment to make professional quality film and music is getting cheaper by the year.......I don't really find it very believable when Sony and Warner Bros. whine about downloading and try to stir up a fear about there being no music and movies in the future.....thats bull. |
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