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tatertot
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Frankly if my computer had a meltdown tomorrow and I had to reformat from scratch, then so be it, it was still worth it NOT having any anti-virus software for a decade's worth of computing bog down my computers.
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Doing a complete reinstall of Windows is really, really easy and painless if you take the proper precautions. What I do now is install Windows to one partition and create another partition for data. If (for any reason) you need to reformat, just reinstall over your system partition and your data is all still there (in the other partition). It takes about 30 minutes and you're done. Why people have this intense fear of viruses is beyond me. I'm definitely in the "why bother with AV" camp. I want to add that I haven't gotten a virus ever since I started using my own computers. The family computer was another story. Just don't click random links and don't install files you can't trust. It's that simple. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| Haha. I remember cleaning the s___ out of an ex�s computer. Deleted a ton of bloatware and unnecessary apps. Next day she was magically back at ZERO free space. It was because of auto updates. I had given her at least 10gb the night prior with all the deletions. She was running XP. Once I shut the updates off and did another cleanup, the 5 year old computer was up and running perfectly again. For her though, I made sure to install Kaspersky. |
You obviously have no clue what's going on with a computer, so I'm gonna try to make this simple...
Auto updates (from Windows at least) ARE THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO TURN OFF since it's used to download CRITICAL SECURITY updates. So basically you deleted a bunch of critical security stuff that the computer knew was needed and re-downloaded and you feel superior? OOOOOOKKKKKK.
Also, installing Kaspersky? Perhaps this is your problem. Kaspersky is crap, everyone who understands even the smallest shred of info about computers knows this (an exaggeration, I know).
Before coming on to boards and offering advice, perhaps you should get a clue yourself and figure out what you're talking about so you don't come off sounding so stupid.
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| kprrok wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| Haha. I remember cleaning the s___ out of an ex�s computer. Deleted a ton of bloatware and unnecessary apps. Next day she was magically back at ZERO free space. It was because of auto updates. I had given her at least 10gb the night prior with all the deletions. She was running XP. Once I shut the updates off and did another cleanup, the 5 year old computer was up and running perfectly again. For her though, I made sure to install Kaspersky. |
You obviously have no clue what's going on with a computer, so I'm gonna try to make this simple...
Auto updates (from Windows at least) ARE THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO TURN OFF since it's used to download CRITICAL SECURITY updates. So basically you deleted a bunch of critical security stuff that the computer knew was needed and re-downloaded and you feel superior? OOOOOOKKKKKK.
Also, installing Kaspersky? Perhaps this is your problem. Kaspersky is crap, everyone who understands even the smallest shred of info about computers knows this (an exaggeration, I know).
Before coming on to boards and offering advice, perhaps you should get a clue yourself and figure out what you're talking about so you don't come off sounding so stupid.
You're welcome. |
Pow!
Haha......have to agree about the updates thing......except I set the option to inform me about updates and let me choose which ones to install.
Because all my software is of the Jack Sparrow nature so I don't want any auto updates....
Plus, I noticed MS has hidden a recent illegal validation check code in one of those KB***** updates........careful about that one. |
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ulsanchris
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| I scanned my work computer the other day with avast and superantispyware. Avast came up with trojan and superantivirus came up with some adware. I don't go to any questionable sites at all while at work or download anything. I mostly surf news websites and youtube. Yet I still picked up some nasty programs. |
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Giant
Joined: 14 May 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:27 am Post subject: |
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No matter what anti-virus you use, someone will always come and say its crap, why... because we all have had different experiances. I am a network admin, and on my network I run a few different AV apps... V3, Symantec and Kaspersky.
I must say without a doubt, V3 is the biggest crap there ever was... Almost every user who has V3 has had some form of trouble with virus's and such.
With Symantec I would never touch their 360 'total-solutions' stuff... but.. their end point protection version is pretty good. (its a corporate version)Its very 'light' and you dont get a performance hit like you do with the 360 and other consumer versions.
With Kaspersky the jury is still out for me personally... Actually so far I have it installed on just one box and its detected every virus thats come in so far. So... so far so good.
And for pete's sake, turn on your damn auto updates.... |
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wintermute
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| What are the chances of your computer being remotely accessed these days? Could someone access your files/personal information? If so, what provides protection against this? |
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Giant
Joined: 14 May 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:48 am Post subject: |
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I would say you just need to do what you can.
Use a hardware firewall. Never connect directly to the internet.
Keep your OS updated, and use protection! 
Use a strong password for your account, and change the default Administrator account name to something else. If they got the account name, its half the puzzle.
Hope this helps. |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| i think that for the average user the easiest way to get a virus is by sharing Usb keys.. If you do this frequently enough a lightweight resident virus scanner makes sense. Otherwise just have a virus scanner installed but not resident in memory so it doesnt take up resources and just run it every now and then. |
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digiboy
Joined: 20 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:35 am Post subject: ummm...? |
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| ummm...get�a�Mac.... |
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Feah
Joined: 26 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Well...
If you know how to use a computer, know where viruses come from, know what could be a virus then absolutely true, you don't need a virus protection software.
If you're not so experienced with computers then you should have some sort of protection.
Me personally, since I've come to Korea, I've installed virus protection software. It seems every Korean website I use wants me to install their own little addon or application in order for the site to work properly...
But yeh either way, I agree with OP. |
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Leonidas
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: ummm...? |
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| digiboy wrote: |
| ummm...get�a�Mac.... |
amateur |
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010
Location: Multiverse
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'm personally very happy I installed MSE.
The other day it found the latest worm virus, quarantined it and then I removed it.
Not sure where I got it from but I have a hunch. A friend gave me this free 2 gig usb drive he got from a client (pickford's moving service) as I lost mine. It was unopened but was a reallty cheap azz piece of plastic junk and ten minutes later the wrom virus is on my laptop.
Lord know what would have happened if I had no anti virus installed and left the worm on there...?
QUESTION - When MSE expires from my laptop in 15 days (I'm running pirated W7 so my vertsion doesn't pass vallidation) - can I just re-install for another 30 days without passing genuine like I did before? I must say I like the software and it is very light and simple to use. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm personally very happy I installed MSE.
The other day it found the latest worm virus, quarantined it and then I removed it.
Not sure where I got it from but I have a hunch. A friend gave me this free 2 gig usb drive he got from a client (pickford's moving service) as I lost mine. It was unopened but was a reallty cheap azz piece of plastic junk and ten minutes later the wrom virus is on my laptop.
Lord know what would have happened if I had no anti virus installed and left the worm on there...?
QUESTION - When MSE expires from my laptop in 15 days (I'm running pirated W7 so my vertsion doesn't pass vallidation) - can I just re-install for another 30 days without passing genuine like I did before? I must say I like the software and it is very light and simple to use. |
I wouldn't bother re-installing MSE every 30 days.....unless I really, really liked it!
Use another free AV that doesn't require a Windows Validation......MSE is quite good but it's not really any better than, say, AVG or Avast.
I'm back with AVG.....Like you, I didn't want to run the Windows Genuine Validation thing so I just installed AVG.........it works well.....I did actually get some low-level viruses (from a students USB! grrrr) but AVG did detect them and eventually healed them.
I suspect some people, especially a lot of Koreans running their beloved Ahnlabs V3, think that their AV is doing a good job because they aren't getting "Threat Detected" pop-ups......I'd say getting an occasional "Threat Detected" pop-up is a good sign as it shows your AV is at work........but who knows really.
You can go for years without a single threat then get a few at once.
Just never allows students USB's in your computer!!........they're all infected to hell!! |
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Leonidas
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Just never allows students USB's in your computer!!........they're all infected to hell!! |
too true. I use avast and almost every time I connect a student usb to my computer the big siren goes off - the best part is my computer is usually connected to the classroom speakers so it sounds like a bloody air raid siren at full blast. Student is usually in shock. |
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Giant
Joined: 14 May 2003
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| oh man... v3 is the worst... NEVER use it!! |
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