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Why is it so hard to get fingerprinted for FBI background ck
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NM14456



Joined: 21 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stephorama wrote:
Yup, just write in the OCI#. I copied everything that was in the OCI box.


Thanks - it seems weird they'd penalize someone for copying.

Just curious, did you already successfully get yours back?
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drcrazy



Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stephorama wrote:
I printed my fingerprint cards directly from the FBI websit andthe ORI number is already printed on it.


http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/pdf/fpcardb.pdf



Hope that helps.


I think this is at least the 4th thread where posters have said they used the form at the link above. And once again I shall ask the same question to which I can not get an answer.


And what did you do about the part on page 2 of the form under the heading INSTRUCTIONS that says:

�Prints must first be checked through the appropriate state identification bureau, and only those fingerprints for which no disqualifying record has been found locally should be submitted for FBI search�
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NM14456



Joined: 21 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drcrazy wrote:
stephorama wrote:
I printed my fingerprint cards directly from the FBI websit andthe ORI number is already printed on it.


http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/pdf/fpcardb.pdf



Hope that helps.


I think this is at least the 4th thread where posters have said they used the form at the link above. And once again I shall ask the same question to which I can not get an answer.


And what did you do about the part on page 2 of the form under the heading INSTRUCTIONS that says:

�Prints must first be checked through the appropriate state identification bureau, and only those fingerprints for which no disqualifying record has been found locally should be submitted for FBI search�



I saw your thread before. I assume (possibly at great future difficulty) that an international request will be treated differently. Obviously, it's a background check only relevant to US states, localities etc..so any local or state check here is irrelevant anyway. I did put in the cover letter that the request is for foreign or overseas employment to clarify.

I hate to say this but I imagine that some of these details may go under the radar or those of us trying to do this early will be the guinea pigs people will look to later.....

What a drag having to sort through a half dozen different threads on this also.
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stephorama



Joined: 19 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drcrazy wrote:


I think this is at least the 4th thread where posters have said they used the form at the link above. And once again I shall ask the same question to which I can not get an answer.


And what did you do about the part on page 2 of the form under the heading INSTRUCTIONS that says:

�Prints must first be checked through the appropriate state identification bureau, and only those fingerprints for which no disqualifying record has been found locally should be submitted for FBI search�


The FBI website states:
Background Checks for Employment or Licensing

If you are requesting a background check for employment or licensing within the U.S., you may be required by state statute or federal law to submit your request through your state identification bureau, the requesting federal agency, or another authorized channeling agency. You should contact the agency requiring the background check or the appropriate state identification bureau (or state police) for the correct procedures to follow for obtaining an FBI fingerprint background check for employment or licensing purposes.

When I went to the State Police for fingerprinting I asked. They said that if I need an FBI background check I should submit the prints to the FBI.
The state record is irrelevant when you need an FBI check. The FBI check will cover all 50 states and outlying territories.
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miso1004



Joined: 21 May 2010
Location: California

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: NM14456 Reply with quote

taipan1949 wrote:
The fingerprinting tech that assisted me could not tell me where to secure an ORI number other than the employer. When I attempted to explain that the Korean language schools were not going to provide the number that she demanded, she had no alternative to share. Oh and days later when I finally gave her the ORI number from the FBI card, she checked it and found that the number was invalid.


I am going through the same thing. I keep getting rejected because I keep bringing the wrong form and I don't have a ORI number. But how am I to know what form I need when the Korean schools and hakwons won't give it? Nor do they provide the ORI number. They just tell me to find it out on my own because other applicants didn't ask for help!

Is it because I am doing it in California? All the fingerprint centers where I live are all Live Scan. I just need to know what form I need and the ORI code but don't know how to obtain them. T^T
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont write anything!

I got mine from from the USO here as well! (They are fantastic BTW, it is FREE, they have the cards and a premade stamp thing to put all of the correct info on it)

It works fine and I got my results back in exactly 8 weeks after sending it in.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is USO?
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miso1004



Joined: 21 May 2010
Location: California

PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulNate wrote:
Dont write anything!

I got mine from from the USO here as well! (They are fantastic BTW, it is FREE, they have the cards and a premade stamp thing to put all of the correct info on it)

It works fine and I got my results back in exactly 8 weeks after sending it in.


I am not sure what you mean by USO.. ????
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millyfrend



Joined: 29 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The USO or United Services Organization is a private, nonprofit organization that provides morale and recreational services to members of the U.S. military worldwide. It has a base near the city centre of Seoul called "Camp Kim".



miso1004 wrote:
SeoulNate wrote:
Dont write anything!

I got mine from from the USO here as well! (They are fantastic BTW, it is FREE, they have the cards and a premade stamp thing to put all of the correct info on it)

It works fine and I got my results back in exactly 8 weeks after sending it in.


I am not sure what you mean by USO.. ????
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SeoulNate



Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is someone's directions from earlier: sorry! dont remember the poster

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regarding fingerprints for those in seoul there is a very easy place to get prints done right in central seoul...

camp kim right next to the uso, you dont need to be signed on to base to get this done walk through the gate and go to the building dead in front of you (the uso is on the right) go to the door marked "permits and ids" tell the nice katusa person working there you need to be fingerprinted, they have the fbi cards, fill them out (get 2 done just in case one screws up) and they will do it. takes around 15 minutes.

you can get there from either namyeong station on line 1 (walk out the station turn right, turn right again at the main intersection and keep walking) or samgakji station lines 4 and 6 think its like exit 10 walk north you cant miss it
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grant gerstners



Joined: 13 Jan 2010
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think on another thread someone said the USO no longer does fingerprinting for non-military.

I am not near the Seoul area and I have sent an email using the address I got from the USO-Korea website, so I'll have to see if they respond and let me know whether or not the fingerprinting service is still provided.

Meanwhile, can anyone closer to Seoul confirm?

I have been to two different police stations in Gwangju, Jeollanamdo and got fingerprinted at both, complete with the small red official stamp on the form. So I have two completed fingerprint forms for sending to the FBI.

But both sets have smears and other flaws so they don't quite meet the specifications.

This is getting frustrating for me and I am willing to travel to another city if I can just get a decent set of fingerprints.

On other threads, people have mentioned livescan (biometric scanning). I remember that technology being used at my hometown when I got fingerprinted in 2008 for a different job.

At that time, hands were optically scanned and then the individual and group digits were printed out on adhesive paper and then individually stuck onto the proper places on the fingerprint form. But that was in the USA and may have required some special FBI training by the technician.

There HAS to be something like it in South Korea that conforms to FBI/international standards. So I have been doing some digging through google.

At first, it seemed one of the brand names for the livescan technology in South Korea is: eNBioScan-F.

Then I found this:
http://www.sourcesecurity.com/companies/search-results/company-search/pa.biometrics,c.korea-south.html

...which gives me the impression that there are lots of places in South Korea capable of capturing our fingerprints on an electronic file. For all we know, they have some of this equipment in the police departments.

I'm just mentioning this in case anyone else is motivated to do anymore digging to find out where we can just walk in and get this done, in South Korea, without messing with the ink. It probably will not be free, but at this point I am willing to pay the cost for such a service.
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