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And you think Koreans are rude???
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
g-ese wrote:
I thought Canada was one of those last bastions of politeness on Earth!! I am always getting crap from other expats about how rude Americans are, how uneducated they are, etc. Ironically, I get crap about being American while I'm overseas (thanks Bush) and in America I get crap about being Latin. Then I get crap from the Latin American community because apparently I'm not in touch with my roots (???). I can't win. I guess my point is, try to find the place where you are happiest and live there. There are some things I hate about living in Korea, but overall, I'm content here. I like my job and my apartment (not a one room, tg). There are things I hate about living in the US too, and some things I miss. But I am not ready to go back, thank you.


Canadians rarely take the tests they apply to Americans to determine Americans are stupid and rude and apply them to themselves. In reality Canadians are a bit less stupid than Americans. They're a bit less rude than Americans. But on the world stage, Canadians rarely have anything to be proud of. Something like only 40% of Americans could locate the pacific ocean on a map. Only 50% of Canadians could accomplish the same task. If every other Canadian can't find the pacific ocean on a map, we're not exactly the brain trust for the world.

I'm sure more than one American ESL teacher who has encountered a Canadian in a bar has come to believe the Canadian reputation for politeness is highly highly over rated.


I'm a southerner more than a westerner you could say, an olde world ex colonial. When i first arrived in England from Zimbabwe I was utterly amazed at the degeneracy I saw in England. I had been under the impression that England was a place of politeness, the consummate well dressed and well educated gentleman.
Nothing could be further from the truth. I was actually better at English than my classmates, smarter dressed, better behaved etc etc. While I studied, my classmates sniffed glue, fought, and reduced the teachers to tears, apart from dressing like slobs. I also knew virtually every ocean, capital and flag of every country on the map: they couldn't have placed Paris on a map.
western civilisation is a rapidly degenerating fallacy. Although I complain, korea is relatively "well behaved" and crime free. And its on the up, too.


This might have more to do with the area in which your school was located. The behaviour you refered to is commonplace on council estates. If you factor in the growing gap betwen rich and poor in the UK, then this becomes more understandable. Indeed, the gap between the richest and the poorest in the UK is now greater than it was in the Victorian times.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:02 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

Juggertha wrote:
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If you want to meet some REALLY polite folks, the people I met on the praries and in Alberta were some of the politest people I have met in my life.


thanks PINK!! hehe





on a side note TAXES are way high in Canada. I know its income dependant. But when you include ALL the taxes... how much are you really left with??


when you include tax on gas.. how high is it really?

when you include tax on utilities... how much is that?

when you incluse taxes on insurance... what does it really come to without??

then there taxes you see, income, GST, PST, ect...



honestly i remember reading that Canadains pay upwards of 70% of their income towards one tax or another.. I wouldnt doubt it.



I heard it is around 48 %. It was over 50% a few years ago, but things have gotten slightly better.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="GwangjuboyThis might have more to do with the area in which your school was located. The behaviour you refered to is commonplace on council estates. If you factor in the growing gap betwen rich and poor in the UK, then this becomes more understandable. Indeed, the gap between the richest and the poorest in the UK is now greater than it was in the Victorian times.[/quote]

Yep.. at the tender age of 12 i exchanged the vast sunbleached plains of Africa for an overcrowded appartment, on a "sink" estate in Northern England. I won't go into it all, but I still remember the shock of that whole change.......
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wote:
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While I'm sure you must be dazzling your family and friends with your razor-shap comeback lines, surely it must be time to put your jammies on, say nighty-night to Mom and Dad and head off to bed


I don't wear jammies!...But you almost had me! Actually I'm gettin my skateboard and my gamecube and going out to play. Rolling Eyes
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada...I remember going back to Canada (Vancouver) after living in Japan for a year. I made the mistake of telling them my foreign income and happily paid an extra $700 or so in taxes. Actually, I was in Calgary at the time, right. Then I moved to Vancouver. Anyway I was in Vancouver studying for the JLPT (Japanese Language Proficiency Test) and working part-time with just enough to get by, $800 or so in the account when a note comes from Revenue Canada saying that they decided that I owed them another $800 in taxes on top of everything and if I had a complaint I should file them the pertinent documents by the next day or I would start paying interest on the amount I owed.
So, after paying that and living off Chef Boy-ar-dee for a month I decided not to live there any more and voila, I don't...^^
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