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War Eagle
Joined: 15 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:31 am Post subject: For those of you anxious and waiting...... |
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It is not set in stone that the FBI background checks will be required as of Jan. 1st. I do not have any evidence of this, but have heard from numerous Korean hakwon employees who handle the visas for new teachers. They, among many, many others, from what I am told, are fighting this law tooth and nail. They see a lot of potential problems for the schools themselves if they must go through 2-4 months of processing before a new teacher arrives to fill a vacant position.
Also, the hagwons seem to believe they have a very good chance in getting the law abolished before it sees the light of day.
So, for those of you, like myself, who are waiting for this law to be enacted so it can weed out the riff raff and unflood the market, don't hold your breath. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Hagwon owners can simply hire Canadians. We can get a local check done in days, and it's still valid for the entire country. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:49 am Post subject: |
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bobbybigfoot wrote: |
Hagwon owners can simply hire Canadians. We can get a local check done in days, and it's still valid for the entire country. |
Which would still cut the available supply of teachers dramatically. |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Location: Ancient Greece
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Plenty of Canadians, Brits, Irish, Aussies, Kiwis and South Africans available to fill in the gaps. A little less supply wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing IMO. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:58 am Post subject: |
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plato's republic wrote: |
Plenty of Canadians, Brits, Irish, Aussies, Kiwis and South Africans available to fill in the gaps. A little less supply wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing IMO. |
Yeah, because hagwon owners are just itching to hire non-North Americans... |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:02 am Post subject: |
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northway wrote: |
plato's republic wrote: |
Plenty of Canadians, Brits, Irish, Aussies, Kiwis and South Africans available to fill in the gaps. A little less supply wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing IMO. |
Yeah, because hagwon owners are just itching to hire non-North Americans... |
Yet demand drives the market. If a school figures out it takes months to hire an American due to the delay caused by the FBI check when they can hire a Canadian, Brit, Aussie in days or weeks..... |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:13 am Post subject: |
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PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
northway wrote: |
plato's republic wrote: |
Plenty of Canadians, Brits, Irish, Aussies, Kiwis and South Africans available to fill in the gaps. A little less supply wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing IMO. |
Yeah, because hagwon owners are just itching to hire non-North Americans... |
Yet demand drives the market. If a school figures out it takes months to hire an American due to the delay caused by the FBI check when they can hire a Canadian, Brit, Aussie in days or weeks..... |
But that's not how it will play. Many recruiters won't even talk to a prospective teacher if they don't have all documents in hand. What will likely happen is there will be a lot less unemployed Americans who see an ad on Craigslist and decide to come to Korea, resulting in more folks who actually want to be here. That's the hope, anyway. |
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Justin Richard
Joined: 09 Sep 2010
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Think Again...This law will stay!
"In a parliamentary committee session last week, GNP lawmaker Lee Jung-hyun � the GNP�s only lawmaker from Jeolla-do, incidentally � noted that about 600 foreign English teachers have been booked for criminal offenses from 2007 to the present, citing material submitted by the national police". |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Home sweet home
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am Post subject: |
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I really think this new law only affects Americans in a big way. Most other countries automatically get the federal checks. And don't have to wait months. |
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War Eagle
Joined: 15 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:57 am Post subject: |
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naturegirl321 wrote: |
I really think this new law only affects Americans in a big way. Most other countries automatically get the federal checks. And don't have to wait months. |
Agreed. But we all know the preferance when it comes to hiring. A lot of parents here don't want their children taught by a non-Americans, especially since Americans are not hard to come by. And parents pay the bills, all of them. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Home sweet home
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I don't know. Seems like those of us needing CBC are in the minority where I work. Most are married to Koreans and don't need it since they're F2s or F5s. The uni prefers it that way. |
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hagwonnewbie

Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Location: Asia
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:50 am Post subject: |
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I imagine there may be a last minute extension for certain teachers (maybe those who have completed contracts previously) |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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South Africans only get a "Federal-Level" check. But takes pretty long to get. They say 6-8 weeks, but in most cases, it's closer to 10 if you're lucky.
As for this change swinging the market, I'm not too sure about that.
What % of the total E2 teachers in Korea are American? 30-35% tops. How many of those teachers are either unable/unwilling to get a Federal Check, not as many as you'd think. Sure it will create a time-lag for an American teacher from application to starting work, but already the ads for Spring Semester are out in full force, which is still plenty of time to get the check done.
Sure, this may create a gap for other teachers for last-minute positions, but I have little doubt recruiters will soon adapt, and start getting teachers on their books a few months in advance rather than pushing last-minute positions.
That being said, the first couple of months might be a little tight, but the market is so flooded right now, this change won't do much to stem the current tide. |
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balzor

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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It's a lock for public school tho |
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