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PatrickBateman



Joined: 08 Jun 2009
Location: American Gardens Building, West 81st Street

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject: Student calling. Reply with quote

This isn't a huge gripe, but it's gradually spiraled into a pain in my CENSORED.


Recently, our company decided it was a good idea to call and chat to our students. Granted, this isn't a terrible idea, but it has snowballed into a monster. At first it was just to appease the parents, but now we're having to have serious conversations with our students. Mind you, some of our students are 7-8 and their levels of English are not very efficient.

I would just like the opinion of others about this situation. I would say that 80% of the time the students do not even want to speak with us. As it stands, we're supposed to call three students daily and have some sort of conversation with them and report with some feedback.

Thoughts?
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it for a year; never had any trouble with it. It's mostly put in place if teachers have too much free time. Some people will scream bloody murder but in all honestly it ain't that bad.
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohhhh god. What do you talk about? In which culture or society do adults call 8 year old kids they aren't related to?

"So, Jinho! Uh, you have dinner?"

"Ne.. yes."

"What did you have?"

"mumbles some korean food you never heard of"

"Oh! Yeah, yummy! Uh, so, uh..."

How long do you have to spend on the phone?[/b]
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaypea wrote:
Ohhhh god. What do you talk about? In which culture or society do adults call 8 year old kids they aren't related to?

"So, Jinho! Uh, you have dinner?"

"Ne.. yes."

"What did you have?"

"mumbles some korean food you never heard of"

"Oh! Yeah, yummy! Uh, so, uh..."

How long do you have to spend on the phone?[/b]


Well most of the questions outside of "How are you?" etc.. are based on what you're teaching in class. If I taught reading and questions, for example, than I'd have a student read the story over the phone and ask them three to five questions to check comprehension.
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PatrickBateman



Joined: 08 Jun 2009
Location: American Gardens Building, West 81st Street

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It varies depending on the levels, but you usually ask what they're planning on doing during their upcoming weekend.

Just typical, worthless, drivel. It's not helping them in any way to speak with us for 2-3 minutes on the phone. Almost all my students do a fair amount of speaking in class.

What can you say to a student that can barely put together a complete sentence? Not to mention you're in a loud office with 15 other people on the phone speaking loudly.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much of this nonsense is credited towards your weekly teaching hours??

I'd just tell them you're developing a phone phobia .
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PatrickBateman



Joined: 08 Jun 2009
Location: American Gardens Building, West 81st Street

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero.

It's just busy work before we head home. We usually have to do it during our break, or the thirty minutes in the office before we go home.

Sometimes what makes it more hectic is if we call the parents and we just get hung up on.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickBateman wrote:
Zero.

It's just busy work before we head home. We usually have to do it during our break, or the thirty minutes in the office before we go home.

Sometimes what makes it more hectic is if we call the parents and we just get hung up on.


You may continue on since you and others don't have the balls to say "NO!" Razz
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PatrickBateman



Joined: 08 Jun 2009
Location: American Gardens Building, West 81st Street

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramen wrote:
PatrickBateman wrote:
Zero.

It's just busy work before we head home. We usually have to do it during our break, or the thirty minutes in the office before we go home.

Sometimes what makes it more hectic is if we call the parents and we just get hung up on.


You may continue on since you and others don't have the balls to say "NO!" Razz


Doing that is just a big hassle. Apparently it's a policy now and they're not asking us to do anything outside our stipulated office hours. Besides, you always have those rogue employees that don't mind kissing the asses of a few teachers for whatever reason. That alone throws a wrench in any type of group grievance.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's only 2-3 minutes, here's a possible solution (or partial solution). Make up a script for a 2-3 minute phone conversation. Show it to all the kids in your class. In class, have them memorize their half of the conversation. Then take the paper away from them. When you call them at home, they have something to say, they don't feel as nervous about thinking of an appropriate reply, the parents are impressed at how fluent their kid has become under your expert tutelage, and you just have to keep to your side of the exact same script for the hour or so that it takes to call all the kids. Just don't let your co-workers know what you're doing.
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sound like telemarketing.

What company is this?
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troglodyte wrote:
If it's only 2-3 minutes, here's a possible solution (or partial solution). Make up a script for a 2-3 minute phone conversation. Show it to all the kids in your class. In class, have them memorize their half of the conversation. Then take the paper away from them. When you call them at home, they have something to say, they don't feel as nervous about thinking of an appropriate reply, the parents are impressed at how fluent their kid has become under your expert tutelage, and you just have to keep to your side of the exact same script for the hour or so that it takes to call all the kids. Just don't let your co-workers know what you're doing.

ha! sly dog! i bet you cheat on your girlfriend.
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methdxman



Joined: 14 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaypea wrote:
Ohhhh god. What do you talk about? In which culture or society do adults call 8 year old kids they aren't related to?

"So, Jinho! Uh, you have dinner?"

"Ne.. yes."

"What did you have?"

"mumbles some korean food you never heard of"

"Oh! Yeah, yummy! Uh, so, uh..."

How long do you have to spend on the phone?[/b]


Yeah sounds a bit intrusive, but at least there isn't nearly as much child sexual abuse as there is in the States, which probably happens to about 1 in 5 children.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For low level kids it's really stupid.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not stupid at all. The parents hear their kid speaking English within the confines of four very Korean walls.

Ask 'colors of the rainbow'. Then 'what color is a strawberry?'
Insist on full sentence replies, viz 'it is red'.

Ask where the mother is and what she's doing. The student is then refreshed on 'rooms in the house' and present continuous activities.

When you suss that the parents are always out when you call, scratch that particular student from the list, since there is no marketing value to be had with that one.
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