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Thinking about doing a runner: Consequences?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The longest I've ever had to wait for hospital test results in Korea has been two days. I did have to wait one day to actually take the test because the test required 24 hours fasting prior.
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Gazpacho



Joined: 06 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok. My director paid approx. 1.1m for my flight out here, I flew with KoreanAir but the KA website offers approx 1.9 for the flight back. Any idea on the best flights out of here?
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you fly via hong kong its alot cheaper. I got a 1 way for 350,000 (incl tax) last nov.
and no, they wont/cant chase you up.
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Gazpacho



Joined: 06 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll look into that. Emirates were offering around 1.3m but 350k is much more appealing!

My visa is single entrance, what kind of discussion can i expect at the airport, will they only ask if i'm returning? I've actually heard of people being held at the airport until a phone-call from the director has 'released' them.
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Gazpacho



Joined: 06 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The down side of a midnight run is that they flag your passport. If you don't get on a plane before they flag your passport, you can be detained. If you do make it out of the country, you can't return for a minimum of five years. Pretty light punishment if you ask me.


Is this true? Will I only have a limited amount of time to leave? I was planning on staying at a friend's place for the weekend, and the Hagwon would notice my absence early afternoon saturday.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazpacho wrote:
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The down side of a midnight run is that they flag your passport. If you don't get on a plane before they flag your passport, you can be detained. If you do make it out of the country, you can't return for a minimum of five years. Pretty light punishment if you ask me.


Is this true? Will I only have a limited amount of time to leave? I was planning on staying at a friend's place for the weekend, and the Hagwon would notice my absence early afternoon saturday.


This is a blatant untruth.


Gazpacho wrote:
i'll look into that. Emirates were offering around 1.3m but 350k is much more appealing!

My visa is single entrance, what kind of discussion can i expect at the airport, will they only ask if i'm returning? I've actually heard of people being held at the airport until a phone-call from the director has 'released' them.


You may get asked if you plan to return (they may advise you to get a re-entry permit). Just tell them you are leaving and not returning; they will mark your visa as canceled (or void your re-entry permit if you have one).

Single entry visa and no re-entry permit means just an exit stamp.

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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy worked here for a year, comes back, & after one week decides to run. "It's not the job. The first trip was novel maybe the second is a mistake."

Clearly didnt put much thought into his actions.

So shaft the new boss. Bunch of Daves posters jump in & say thats okay. Run! No consequences!

New boss loses more than million won & is stuck without a teacher.

OP is a selfish jerk, imho.
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just leave. No consequences, unless you want to come back. But if you don't...just leave. As far as running, thousands have done it in the past and, undoubtedly, thousands more will do it in the future. I once knew of a runner who didn't even get out of the airport. I don't think you could technically call him a runner. He got into Incheon airport, got freaked out(probably by everyone looking the same), booked a ticket and flew back home. Never even left the airport. So, people run in a variety of ways and for a variety of reasons.
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not going to pass judgement on the OP for deciding to leave. He's an adult and can determine for himself if it's the right thing to do (morally and practically).

Regarding being detained at the airport, that's BS. The only thing they'll detail you for at the airport is if you were charged with something seriously criminal like drugs, assault, etc. In those cases, you'd be restricted from leaving the country. The immigration guys don't care about labor contracts. Labor contracts do not bind you to stay in the country. It's completely legal to break a contract. There may be penalties for doing so, but it's not criminal. Similarly they aren't going to hold you at the airport for not paying your phone bill or parking tickets before leaving.

Just because you signed a work contract doesn't mean that you are legally obliged to remain there for the duration of the contract. You didn't sell yourself into slavery. Either person is allowed to break the contract. If you break it then, there will be some penalties, but that just means that the employer would have to pursue you to recover the money owed him/her.

It's too expensive and complicated for your boss to try to get you to pay him back after you leave Korea. Here, he could do it easier because you're in country, subject to the same legal system. Abroad, you're still responsible but it gets a lot harder to implement, therefore it gets more expensive. Just like employers know that once we leave, it's VERY difficult to recover money they owe us, the same is true in reverse.

Don't worry. If you leave, there will be no problems at immigration. You'll just get some nasty calls and emails from your boss and recruiter when you get back home.
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Gazpacho



Joined: 06 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the clarity people.

schwa: I understand your point but the director isn't the only one out of pocket here, my flight home plus the money i spent for the visa will prove a greater loss to myself. But I've just got to go. The thought is pretty much cemented in my head now.
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazpacho wrote:
Thanks for the clarity people.

schwa: I understand your point but the director isn't the only one out of pocket here, my flight home plus the money i spent for the visa will prove a greater loss to myself. But I've just got to go. The thought is pretty much cemented in my head now.


Hey if you have to go you have to go and I really don't fault you for that. But I do fault you for your reasoning about out of pocket expenses. The director is out of pocket through no fault of his own-even you admit the job was not the problem.
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could still leave but do the decent thing and give a month's notice, thereby giving your boss some time to find a replacement. If you explain your reasons for wanting to leave and if he's a reasonable person he won't make your last month in the ROK a living nightmare.
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asylum seeker



Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
Guy worked here for a year, comes back, & after one week decides to run. "It's not the job. The first trip was novel maybe the second is a mistake."

Clearly didnt put much thought into his actions.

So shaft the new boss. Bunch of Daves posters jump in & say thats okay. Run! No consequences!

New boss loses more than million won & is stuck without a teacher.

OP is a selfish jerk, imho.


Probably another one million won for the recruiter fee (assuming it was through a recruiter) too. Then there's the inconvenience of trying to explain to the parents why there's no foreign teacher for the next few weeks until they can find another suc- I mean, candidate.
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toby99



Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote= "Troglodyte"Similarly they aren't going to hold you at the airport for not paying your phone bill or parking tickets before leaving. [/quote]

Have any idea if they'll stop you from re-entering the country if you left with, say, an unpaid phone bill?
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my 2 cents worth.....you're a coward if you don't have the guts to tell the owners you are leaving. Period. Some of you go ahead and flame me...but you are cowards and can't even stand up to something as simple as leaving a school/country.
If you feel you have been screwed over...by all means, leave! But have the balls to tell the idiot school bosses that you are leaving...they can't stop you and nor will immigration unless you are wanted for some crime.
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