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pkang0202
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ontheway
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 Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Obama wants to spy on you and no one cares |
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http://articles.cnn.com/2010-09-29/opinion/schneier.web.surveillance_1_government-eavesdropping-internet-surveillance-law-enforcement?_s=PM:OPINION
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President Obama will seek sweeping laws enabling law enforcement to more easily eavesdrop on the internet. Technologies are changing, the administration argues, and modern digital systems aren't as easy to monitor as traditional telephones.
The government wants to force companies to redesign their communications systems and information networks to facilitate surveillance, and to provide law enforcement with back doors that enable them to bypass any security measures. |
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Anyone who supports such legislation is an evil, fascist-socialist. |
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catman
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| Actually plenty of people do care. |
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caniff
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| Actually plenty of people do care. |
Like me. I care. I even care enough to post about it on Dave's.
Seriously, though, this sucks. |
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El Exigente
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:51 am Post subject: Re: Obama wants to spy on you and no one cares |
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| ontheway wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-09-29/opinion/schneier.web.surveillance_1_government-eavesdropping-internet-surveillance-law-enforcement?_s=PM:OPINION
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President Obama will seek sweeping laws enabling law enforcement to more easily eavesdrop on the internet. Technologies are changing, the administration argues, and modern digital systems aren't as easy to monitor as traditional telephones.
The government wants to force companies to redesign their communications systems and information networks to facilitate surveillance, and to provide law enforcement with back doors that enable them to bypass any security measures. |
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Anyone who supports such legislation is an evil, fascist-socialist. |
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The Happy Warrior
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Not only this, but Obama wants all money transfers to be monitored, not just those of $10k or higher. Meaning you'll need to give your social security number for any transfer of money.
And also the assassinations.
Actually, to respond to caniff's point, I really feel diminished merely discussing this on a forum. There has to be something we can do. |
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caniff
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| There has to be something we can do. |
Contact your congressman?
Bhwahahahahahaha...heh heh..uuuhhh... 
Good thing I don't have an oven or else I might be tempted to go stick my head in it. |
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The Happy Warrior
Joined: 10 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| There has to be something we can do. |
Contact your congressman?
Bhwahahahahahaha...heh heh..uuuhhh...
Good thing I don't have an oven or else I might be tempted to go stick my head in it. |
Its not a bad start. But emailing won't do. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| There has to be something we can do. |
Contact your congressman?
Bhwahahahahahaha...heh heh..uuuhhh...
Good thing I don't have an oven or else I might be tempted to go stick my head in it. |
Its not a bad start. But emailing won't do. |
Makes me wanna grab a soapbox and start frothing at the mouth over on Boston Common (I'm back in the US - yay!).
My soapbox and I would probably be arrested. |
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El Exigente
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| There has to be something we can do. |
Contact your congressman?
Bhwahahahahahaha...heh heh..uuuhhh...
Good thing I don't have an oven or else I might be tempted to go stick my head in it. |
Its not a bad start. But emailing won't do. |
Maybe he could snail mail his head into the oven.  |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| El Exigente wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| There has to be something we can do. |
Contact your congressman?
Bhwahahahahahaha...heh heh..uuuhhh...
Good thing I don't have an oven or else I might be tempted to go stick my head in it. |
Its not a bad start. But emailing won't do. |
Maybe he could snail mail his head into the oven. |
Yeah!!..Heh....Oh wait, you're talking about ME!!? HEY!!
Be nice, Ba - I've been nice to you lately, so you could at least return the favor. |
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El Exigente
Joined: 10 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| El Exigente wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| The Happy Warrior wrote: |
| There has to be something we can do. |
Contact your congressman?
Bhwahahahahahaha...heh heh..uuuhhh...
Good thing I don't have an oven or else I might be tempted to go stick my head in it. |
Its not a bad start. But emailing won't do. |
Maybe he could snail mail his head into the oven. |
Yeah!!..Heh....Oh wait, you're talking about ME!!? HEY!!
Be nice, Ba - I've been nice to you lately, so you could at least return the favor. |
It was your idea! I was just trying to help.
Besides, I know you can take a joke - as well as dish them out. |
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mises
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Can't depend on Congress or SCOTUS. The executive is a bankster/neocon dedicated position.
Americans have states rights left to check this growth, I reckon.
Cass R. Sunstein, who is (surprise) in the Obama admin wrote a book that the state should penetrate domestic groups who don't completely fall in line. That's entirely against the American system as it was designed. He was apparently #2 behind Kagan for the SCOTUS position. That's how far this has gone. |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
Can't depend on Congress or SCOTUS. The executive is a bankster/neocon dedicated position.
Americans have states rights left to check this growth, I reckon.
Cass R. Sunstein, who is (surprise) in the Obama admin wrote a book that the state should penetrate domestic groups who don't completely fall in line. That's entirely against the American system as it was designed. He was apparently #2 behind Kagan for the SCOTUS position. That's how far this has gone. |
Cass Sunstein is an ultra-radical socialist law professor who's been placed into one of the most powerful positions in the federal government. In addition to calling for a COINTELPRO-style effort to sabotage patriot movements with agent provocateurs and ban such "conspiracy theories" as 9/11 being an inside job, global warming, etc. (and no doubt any suggestion that the government is corrupt in any way), he's stated openly he'd like to get rid of the 2nd amendment. Here's a clip of him lecturing against the right to bear arms and predicting our rights will be repealed in the near future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flfHZgT-SeI&feature=player_embedded
As the information and regulatory affairs czar, he (a radical fascist-socialist lawyer) has been put in an extremely powerful position (by his fellow lawyer friend, Obama), effectively in charge of all executive enforcement of law. He has openly stated and written books that the president, not the courts, should interpret all executive law. He was advocating this stuff even during the Bush administration and supported the president's creation of military commissions without congressional approval, as well as the illegal spying on the American people (both of which have continued under Obama). http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/03/26/court
He's now leading the charge to ban free speech on the internet, which of course is all announced by he and his ilk in their mild-mannered, simpering liberal tone, as if it's all normal and for our own good.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/item_jWqYGgWq425vqy5j59nw8K;jsessionid=EA981C9E4F1654A4FBCA035D05002329
Among other things this nut job also thinks that any use of animals by people is morally akin to slavery, that hunting should be banned, and that animals should even be allowed to sue human beings in a court of law (with human lawyers representing them, paid for by the taxpayer). No joke...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaJ8VXYdBrg
http://www.examiner.com/hunting-and-fishing-in-baltimore/cass-sunstein-animal-rights-animal-welfare-and-president-obama
Last but not least, here's an essay he wrote in 1999, where he says we should all celebrate tax day and literally declares that we owe everything to our loving government, and without taxation there could be no private property or freedom  Yes, extreme Marxism is still very much alive and well, in the highest levels of our government. http://home.uchicago.edu/~csunstei/celebrate.html |
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