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Korean-American college student looking to teach in Korea.
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galbi



Joined: 30 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:40 pm    Post subject: Korean-American college student looking to teach in Korea. Reply with quote

Hi. I'm currently a 19 year old Korean-American college student. I am in my second year of community college and will be transferring to one of the UC(University of California) schools next year.

I want to teach in Korea inbetween transferring from my community college to a UC. I have been doing a lot of research about teaching in Korea and have learned its pretty limited without a 4 year degree. I know my best option at the moment is TaLK (Teach and Learn in Korea) which is the public program designed for current college students from native English speaking countries.

But this brings me to the question: Is TaLK my only option?

TaLK seems great, but there are two things I am hesitant about:
1. TaLK is for teaching children in early primary school; I'd rather teach older students (junior high?).
2. According to the TaLK website, the program is mainly designated in rural areas. I would prefer to teach in a metropolitan area such as Seoul. (though metropolitan cities such as Incheon and Daegu are listed as cities for the TaLK program; anyone know anything about this?)

Here are some of my informal and formal "credentials":
.Fluent in Korean
.Will have an Associate's degree after my second year at community college
.Majoring in History
.Scored in the 90th percentile for English/Writing on the SAT's as well as a 4/5 on the Languge and Composition AP exam(yeah, I doubt these will help, but throwing it in here just in case.)

Furthermore, would getting an online TEFL certificate help my situation at all?

Thanks in advance!
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming over on the F4 ('Gyopo') visa might be an option, but you'd have to check around and get input from other Gyopo. Imagine that you'd be able to get a job teaching older kids, or maybe even test-prep. While your scores were decent, they still prefer to tout a big-name, 4-year degree holding teacher to the parents, though. In the end, if you'll work cheaper, you'll get the work.

How long do you expect to teach 'between degrees'? That could be a factor as employers would naturally want someone who could teach for a year or so. IMHO, it'd be better to just knock out the BA and then come over.

Good luck with it all...
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Slowmotion



Joined: 15 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you score that high and end up at a community college???
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Louis VI



Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of gyopos without degrees are teaching here these days. You'll fit right in.
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engrishprease



Joined: 22 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slowmotion wrote:
How do you score that high and end up at a community college???


You can take the SAT as many times as you want.
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galbi



Joined: 30 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
Coming over on the F4 ('Gyopo') visa might be an option, but you'd have to check around and get input from other Gyopo. Imagine that you'd be able to get a job teaching older kids, or maybe even test-prep. While your scores were decent, they still prefer to tout a big-name, 4-year degree holding teacher to the parents, though. In the end, if you'll work cheaper, you'll get the work.

How long do you expect to teach 'between degrees'? That could be a factor as employers would naturally want someone who could teach for a year or so. IMHO, it'd be better to just knock out the BA and then come over.

Good luck with it all...


How would I land these jobs though? Where do I look?

I expect to teach for 6 months to 1 year. I want to take a break for a while from school because I'm sick of it.


Louis VI wrote:
Lots of gyopos without degrees are teaching here these days. You'll fit right in.


How did they land these jobs?

engrishprease wrote:
Slowmotion wrote:
How do you score that high and end up at a community college???


You can take the SAT as many times as you want.


Yes, you can take the SAT as many times as you want, but thats not the answer to why I did decently on the SAT. You could take the SAT a million times, but if you don't have a certain amount of knowledge, you'll still end up with a cruddy score.

I grew up in a family of academics. Both of my parents are professors. But I barely graduated high school; I was extremely lazy. I went to community college to try to transfer to a better school.

The community college I attend (Santa Monica College) actually has a LOT (and I mean a LOT) of Korean international students trying to transfer to UCLA or what have you.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're Kyopo it makes things a bit easier. My school has hired a couple Kyopo temporarily and paid them quite well. Finding a permanent job would be a bit harder.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if you have great grades and score in the top 1% on the SAT, unless a 4-year school is forking over serious scholarship money, why not go to a community college? You get a degree in the process, knock out your pre-requisites and a lot of the fluff courses, and might even figure out what you want to do. For many who don't do will in high school, whether because of aptitude or lack of effort (see the OP's previous post), a 2-year school can be a confidence booster, too. You can always transfer, and your final 4-year diploma will read just the same as someone who paid that extra 10K-50K+ for theirs.

As for scholarships and aid, in the end they are impacted by the income of your family regardless of whether or not they will be paying anything toward your tuition.

Having said all this, my 2 cents is that the OP should just knock out the BA as soon as possible. I took a break from my BA studies, and all it showed me was that I really needed to finish the degree. Now I know why everyone told me then what I'm suggesting to the OP now - don't put it off because a) it's nice to make money and be 'free' of college for now, but one can get sucked in by having a bit of spread money and/or accumulate responsibilities in the process, and b) by the time you may be presented with opportunities, not having the degree may shut the door for you.

Again, just my 2 cents. Nobody could tell me different then, so I don't imagine this will turn out any differently.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and as for how to get jobs, you can look in the ads on Dave's. Also, I think there is a thread for private teaching.
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pkjh



Joined: 23 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
Coming over on the F4 ('Gyopo') visa might be an option, but you'd have to check around and get input from other Gyopo

I believe you need to be 20 or 21 and over to get the F4. I remember a guy a few years ago 6 months short of 20 or 21 and he had to wait around Korea until he turned of age to get the F4.
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galbi



Joined: 30 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
Oh, and as for how to get jobs, you can look in the ads on Dave's. Also, I think there is a thread for private teaching.


Yeah, community college is the way to go especially if you're looking to save money. I'm not even paying any tuition thanks to financial aid.

Anyway, I've looked through some of the ads on Dave's, but it seems like all the recruiters are looking for people with BA's. Perhaps I should contact some of the recruiters and ask about my case?

Going to and teaching in Korea is something I've thought about for a long time. For me, since I have am of Korean heritage, it has more of a special connection than just teaching. Its been something I've been looking forward to, so I definitely do not want to wait until I get my BA. In fact, I'll probably teach before I get my BA and then go back again after I get it.
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smartwentcrazy



Joined: 26 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: