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		| Radius 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:37 am    Post subject: young korean girls |   |  
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				| Why is it always the young (12-13) korean girls that are the hardest to handle in class?  Its their attitude.  But the boys, on the other hand, at the same age rock!  It's always the girls.  Any theories? |  | 
	
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		| diarmuid2k 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:42 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Its around that age they become marketing target numero uno of the k-pop merch machine. 
 Sass and sex sell, so self-empowerment for them is mouthing off and dressing provocatively
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		| Radius 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:47 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| DEATH to K-POP  |  | 
	
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		| machoman 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: young korean girls |   |  
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	  | Why is it always the young (12-13) korean girls that are the hardest to handle in class?  Its their attitude.  But the boys, on the other hand, at the same age rock!  It's always the girls.  Any theories? |  
 are you male or female?
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		| Globutron 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:18 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Generally I suppose, but I've had a few awesome students around that age who were female. My favourite I've taught to date unfortunately left, she was 13 and nothing but fun. My 5 minute phone teaching with her would often mistakenly last 7-8 without realising. 
 They're most fun around 10-11 ish I have found, though.
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		| peppermint 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:01 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| It's called puberty. |  | 
	
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		| Steelrails 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | peppermint wrote: |  
	  | It's called puberty. |  
 For real.
 
 Why do my elementary kids act like a bunch of kids?
 
 Why do my high school students act like a bunch of teenagers?
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		| jvalmer 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I find middle school girls are the best behaved, at least in school, not sure about hagwons though. |  | 
	
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		| vermouth 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If this is true it's the total opposite of the case in elementary school. 
 In the year I've been teaching all my problem students have been boys.
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		| galbi 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The title of this thread was ambiguous and slightly creepy. |  | 
	
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		| oldfatfarang 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: young korean girls |   |  
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	  | Radius wrote: |  
	  | Why is it always the young (12-13) korean girls that are the hardest to handle in class?  Its their attitude.  But the boys, on the other hand, at the same age rock!  It's always the girls.  Any theories? |  
 OP; Three questions:
 - What is your gender?
 - How old are you?
 - Are you teaching PS or hagwon?
 These are the three biggies for teaching in Korea.
 
 Personally, I've taught at 2 Korean all-girl PS middle and high schools. I find middle school girl students so easy to teach - it's embarrassing. They are kind, polite, willing to help their teacher - even if their English levels are very low.
 
 Middle school Korean girls are passive learners, and as long as you are 'kind' - you will have them eating out of your hand. However, I'm a much older male, and they are socialised to respect me (and I've usually had very strict K co-teachers).   Some K high school girls, however ..............
 
 I won't teach in all-boys schools. I find Korean male students to be thick and violent.
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		| balzor 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: young korean girls |   |  
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Mine are the exact opposite, Girls are awesome students and boys are horrible.    I'm a male, public middle school 
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	  | Why is it always the young (12-13) korean girls that are the hardest to handle in class?  Its their attitude.  But the boys, on the other hand, at the same age rock!  It's always the girls.  Any theories? |  |  | 
	
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		| Kaypea 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Most of my middle school girls are lovely.  Some are *really* intelligent and interesting, and most of them are sweet and nice or funny and fun. 
 But-- we have a bad problem with girl bullies in the first grade.  There's one girl who poisons every class she's in.  It really breaks my heart.  Nobody knows what to do about her and her cronies.  Yeah, yeah, I know, they're just 12 year old girl kids, but they're so mean, they caused one girl to drop out for a while... I just wish we could ban them from the school.
 
 The boys don't have this drama.  There's bullies, but it's not quite the same.
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		| balzor 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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put them out of your class or the second they stat acting up  make an example out of them. 
	  | Kaypea wrote: |  
	  | Most of my middle school girls are lovely.  Some are *really* intelligent and interesting, and most of them are sweet and nice or funny and fun. 
 But-- we have a bad problem with girl bullies in the first grade.  There's one girl who poisons every class she's in.  It really breaks my heart.  Nobody knows what to do about her and her cronies.  Yeah, yeah, I know, they're just 12 year old girl kids, but they're so mean, they caused one girl to drop out for a while... I just wish we could ban them from the school.
 
 The boys don't have this drama.  There's bullies, but it's not quite the same.
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		| southernman 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | peppermint wrote: |  
	  | It's called puberty. |  
 hehe...
 
 In the Op's defence though,  a couple of basic classes focussing on Childhood/Teenage growth and development would be very handy during PS orientations.  Some of the so called expert lecturers on  my EPIK orientation were more self-absorbed than the average 12-13 yr old
  
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