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Rocktek
Joined: 17 Dec 2009 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: Gender Issues? |
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I know, I know but seriously, sexist, ageist much?:
From craigslist:
We are seeking for a Qualified business English teacher/coordinator.
Duties include;
1. English lessons to executives, staff and employees
2. Creating /managing educational program and contents(viedeo/audio), and events
3. Proofreading business documents
4. Conducting and evaluating English interviews with job candidates
5. Teaching English presentation skills
6. Operating English Zone supplies
Qualifications;
1. English native speaker
2. Bachelor�s degree or higher
3. Older than 24, Under 36 years old
4. Female
5. F2, E2 visa holders who are in Korea now, and can attend in-person interview (F4 visa holders will not be accepted)
6. More than 2 years of teaching experience in Korea
7. Female
Hours: 9am-6 pm, Monday-Friday
Starting: Mid/End of November
Location: Central Seoul
Compensation
1. Salary: 3.3-3.4 million won (income tax will be deducted)
*41million won a year
(Air ticket and Housing will not be provided)
2. 50:50 Health insurance, pension
3. paid vacation (10 days)
They want all that AND the bag of potato chips, for a crappy 3.3, with no housing, and no plane ticket? No housing and plane ticket, make this job worth your average 2.5 a month, or less.
The employer is obviously sexist, ageist, and racist (no F4s! lol)
I hope that any F visa holding females fully realize their potential market value, and NEVER take a crap salary/job like this.
You can easily make more than 3.3 doing part time work, if you're an F visa holding female in that age range, EASILY. Gyopo or not.
Oh, did I mention, they want a FEMALE? lol |
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hondaicivic
Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: Daegu, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: Gender Issues? |
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Rocktek wrote: |
I know, I know but seriously, sexist, ageist much?:
From craigslist:
We are seeking for a Qualified business English teacher/coordinator.
Duties include;
1. English lessons to executives, staff and employees
2. Creating /managing educational program and contents(viedeo/audio), and events
3. Proofreading business documents
4. Conducting and evaluating English interviews with job candidates
5. Teaching English presentation skills
6. Operating English Zone supplies
Qualifications;
1. English native speaker
2. Bachelor�s degree or higher
3. Older than 24, Under 36 years old
4. Female
5. F2, E2 visa holders who are in Korea now, and can attend in-person interview (F4 visa holders will not be accepted)
6. More than 2 years of teaching experience in Korea
7. Female
Hours: 9am-6 pm, Monday-Friday
Starting: Mid/End of November
Location: Central Seoul
Compensation
1. Salary: 3.3-3.4 million won (income tax will be deducted)
*41million won a year
(Air ticket and Housing will not be provided)
2. 50:50 Health insurance, pension
3. paid vacation (10 days)
They want all that AND the bag of potato chips, for a crappy 3.3, with no housing, and no plane ticket? No housing and plane ticket, make this job worth your average 2.5 a month, or less.
The employer is obviously sexist, ageist, and racist (no F4s! lol)
I hope that any F visa holding females fully realize their potential market value, and NEVER take a crap salary/job like this.
You can easily make more than 3.3 doing part time work, if you're an F visa holding female in that age range, EASILY. Gyopo or not.
Oh, did I mention, they want a FEMALE? lol |
It's korea, what do you expect?... |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Atleast they tell you directly.
If I may give advice to the ladies, don't apply for jobs that are specifically asking for 'females'. There are a great deal of perv Hagwon owners/principals that would love to "watch you work".
and I'm not being sarcastic  |
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Hawkeye Pierce
Joined: 22 Jan 2010 Location: Uijeongbu
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:06 am Post subject: Re: Gender Issues? |
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Isn't if odd how the feminists get quiet about sexism when females are specifically preferred for a job?
There are several reasons for the preference in Korea, but ladies considering coming here should know that not all of those reasons meet Western standards for appropriateness. In Korea anyhow, females are less likely to question authority, AND Koreans are very touchy. So, the ladies may have some misunderstandings in the workplace here. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:49 am Post subject: |
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I would say the real reason for demanding a female specifically is they want someone who is subservient and doesn't question authority not to say womens purpose in life is to be subservient servants without a voice. If you take this job, you may find yourself in a position difficult to impossible to correct the wrongs. While it looks like a good job on paper, I'm betting it's a tease and you will be ignored or told to hush if speaking up about the wrongs you become concerned with after accepting such position. While I'm male, I would say to go interview in person, have a serious discussion, and get to know who you are prospecting to work for. It's really difficult to judge an advert, but it's a red flag if it's sexist or racist, because it indicates the boss might be corrupt using fear tactics to motivate his people while screwing them out of money and benefits. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:27 am Post subject: |
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A lot of Korean employers have very limited experience with foreign teachers. Its possible this outfit has just left off dealing with a difficult male or older person. Or maybe they've had a positive run with someone that fit the ad's demographic & they hope to replicate that.
They dont have to be PC, so they arent. Their intentions arent necessarily exploitative.
Just suggesting. |
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Location: Multiverse
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Lol at how much work they want for that salary!
Go to hell! |
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sarahsiobhan
Joined: 24 May 2009 Location: Wherever I am , I am probably drinking tea.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:18 am Post subject: |
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That's absurd. As a feminist I find this horrifying. This kind of thing should never happen, whether males or females are favoured. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hotwire wrote: |
Lol at how much work they want for that salary!
Go to hell! |
How much work?
The hours are from 9-6...1 hour more than a public school. The pay is also more than a public school though. And the number of "duties" is less than is expected at a typical public school as well. |
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Epik_Teacher
Joined: 28 Apr 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I always find it humorous how very selective liberals, feminists and other PC-ism types are about what they choose to become offended by. Talk about selective tunnel vision! |
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lubastowiezc
Joined: 07 Oct 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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I find it more absurd that F-4 visa holders will not be accepted than wanting to hire a female. While it's "wrong" to discriminate against male applicants, there is still a difference overall between female and male employees....but to disqualify F-4 holders simply because they "look" Korean is ridiculous. One's ethnicity is completely irrelevant in the workplace. |
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lubastowiezc
Joined: 07 Oct 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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I think that rooster_2006 needs to lay off the coffee  |
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lubastowiezc
Joined: 07 Oct 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like his thread was already pulled. |
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rooster_2006
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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lubastowiezc wrote: |
Looks like his thread was already pulled. |
Nah, I deleted them myself.
Although I strongly believe in both of them, I'd rather not start a flame war. |
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Kurtz
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Location: ples bilong me
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Hotwire wrote: |
Lol at how much work they want for that salary!
Go to hell! |
How much work?
The hours are from 9-6...1 hour more than a public school. The pay is also more than a public school though. And the number of "duties" is less than is expected at a typical public school as well. |
10 days vacation, no airfare, no accommodation, 9 hour days, and the job seems reasonably difficult in comparison to most micky mouse ESL jobs here. Doesn't seem too good to me. |
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