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shinramyun
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 Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:04 pm Post subject: Chinese police force Nobel Peace Prize winner's wife to jail |
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BEIJING � The 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner's wife Liu Xia was being forced to leave her home in Beijing by plainclothes police officers Friday, she told Reuters during a phone interview shortly after the prize was awarded.
The officers said they wanted to take Liu to the prison in Jinzhou in the northeastern province of Liaoning, where her husband Liu Xiaobo is being held in an apparent effort to prevent foreign reporters from speaking to her, she said.
"They are forcing me to leave Beijing," said Liu as her brothers packed her bags with plainclothes police waiting for her outside.
"They want me to go to Liaoning to see Xiaobo. They want to distance me from the media," she added.
She had been giving interviews to journalists by phone and a statement by her was also issued the Freedom Now human rights group, following the announcement that Liu Xiaobo, who is serving an 11-year sentence for subversion, had won the prize at 5 a.m. ET.
In an emotional interview with Hong Kong's Cable television station, she said that she hoped the international community would now press China to free her husband, adding that the country itself should "have pride in his selection and release him from prison."
She said she had not expected her husband to win. "I can hardly believe it because my life has been filled with too many bad things. This prize is not only for Xiaobo but for everyone working for human rights and justice in China," she said.
It was during the later phone interview with Reuters that she revealed she was being made to leave Beijing by the police.
In that conversation, she insisted, "Xiaobo is innocent" and accused the Chinese government of acting illegally.
"The constitution guarantees freedom of speech. They (the authorities) broke the law first," she said.
The award offered hope to China's dwindling band of pro-democracy dissidents, she said.
"His friends repeatedly told me that they thirsted for Liu Xiaobo to win the Prize more than he himself did because they think it would be an opportunity to change China," Liu said.
The democracy movement is largely forgotten in China, with many Chinese abandoning activism and focusing instead on cashing in on economic reforms. |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39572892/ns/world_news-asiapacific
You so classy, china. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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An off-topic posting has been deleted. Stay on topic, please. This thread concerns China. If you want to discuss the U.S., Canada, UK, Colombia, Italy, etc., please do so on a thread started for such a purpose.
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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The sad part is that there will be some support for the Beijing government on this thread, no doubt.
A good man apparently who has tried to bring about peaceful reform . Jailing his wife , well that a given since it sends a message to any dissenters who feel brave this lets them know that their family will suffer also. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Want to talk about something funny: I am in China and I just finished watching an hour of news on CCTV's English channel. NO MENTION of the Nobel Prize. The gov't is going to try to put a lid on this as long as they can.
Ever read 1984 and think what happened to Winston was a stretch...I have to wonder in China...
The government won't give up their hold on power. To the rest of the world it seems nuts, but China is a beast that doesn't work like the rest of the world and the system they have in place sort of keeps 1.3 Billion people happy. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| I think it was Sir Robert Hart who spent his life in China who said " No one has any idea how the Chinese people want to be governed" There is absolutely no mention of this by the Chinese. Even if they knew few would care. That is what happens when you cross the emperor. most people are pretty content . the biggest complaints are about the real estate speculators driving housing prices up. This just wouldnt affect them. They will ramp up the propaganda machine and in a few days they will have demonized this man and his family and no more will be heard. |
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shinramyun
Joined: 31 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| She's "disappeared" now, apparently. |
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Gom
Joined: 05 Oct 2010
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| This is entirely ridiculous. The fact that freedom of speech can be obliterated to such an extent is heart-breaking. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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The government won't give up their hold on power. To the rest of the world it seems nuts, but China is a beast that doesn't work like the rest of the world and the system they have in place sort of keeps 1.3 Billion people happy. |
They have in place a system that keeps 1.3 billion people ignorant, not happy.
Were the Chinese Uighurs happy when the stormtrooping patrol stopped them from moving about during the '08 Olympics?
Were the Tibetans happy? Does the PRC care if these two groups are "happy"? |
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The Happy Warrior
Joined: 10 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
The government won't give up their hold on power. To the rest of the world it seems nuts, but China is a beast that doesn't work like the rest of the world and the system they have in place sort of keeps 1.3 Billion people happy. |
Until the economy starts having trouble . . .
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Were the Chinese Uighurs happy when the stormtrooping patrol stopped them from moving about during the '08 Olympics?
Were the Tibetans happy? Does the PRC care if these two groups are "happy"? |
Absolutely!
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/4354/happy_serf_liberation_day/ |
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010
Location: Multiverse
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
Want to talk about something funny: I am in China and I just finished watching an hour of news on CCTV's English channel. NO MENTION of the Nobel Prize. The gov't is going to try to put a lid on this as long as they can.
Ever read 1984 and think what happened to Winston was a stretch...I have to wonder in China...
The government won't give up their hold on power. To the rest of the world it seems nuts, but China is a beast that doesn't work like the rest of the world and the system they have in place sort of keeps 1.3 Billion people happy. |
It's not a stretch at all.
Brainwashing in prison camps, govt lisenced torture, eradication of any group deemed even slighly non govt aligned, illegal organ harvest and sale to wealthy foriengers from prisoners etc is rampant in China.
Oh and of course soviet era censorship and control of the internet. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| Mr. Pink wrote: |
The government won't give up their hold on power. To the rest of the world it seems nuts, but China is a beast that doesn't work like the rest of the world and the system they have in place sort of keeps 1.3 Billion people happy. |
They have in place a system that keeps 1.3 billion people ignorant, not happy.
Were the Chinese Uighurs happy when the stormtrooping patrol stopped them from moving about during the '08 Olympics?
Were the Tibetans happy? Does the PRC care if these two groups are "happy"? |
Hence the 'sort of' above - a system only needs to keep people happy and comfortable enough that the majority is not interested in any sort of major change. |
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