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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 Location: Multiverse
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Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject: Download as much torrents as you can - it might be ending |
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from http://www.demonoid.com/
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COICA
In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week, and there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this Thursday.
If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of the media companies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China and Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor will be completely removed from the internet and not just in the US.
Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more information.
Stop the Internet Blacklist
And if you are a US citizen, please take the time to sign this petition
DemandProgress.org - Petition to Stop the Internet Blacklist!
Update: Also for US citizens, you can email your Senator from the following link and tell him or her your concerns about this bill
Tell Your Senator: No Website Blacklists, No Internet Censorship!
Update, from EFF's website: the Senate Judiciary Committee postponed the scheduled markup of the Internet censorship bill � a fantastic outcome, given that the entertainment industry and their allies in Congress had hoped this bill would be quickly approved before the Senators went home for the October recess. Massive thanks to all who used the EFF Action Center to write to your Senators to oppose this bill. |
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Gideon

Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Download as much torrents as you can - it might be endin |
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Hotwire wrote: |
from http://www.demonoid.com/
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COICA
In the United States, a new law proposal called The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) was introduced last week, and there will be a hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee this Thursday.
If passed, this law will allow the government, under the command of the media companies, to censor the internet as they see fit, like China and Iran do, with the difference that the sites they decide to censor will be completely removed from the internet and not just in the US.
Please see the following article from the Huffington Post for more information.
Stop the Internet Blacklist
And if you are a US citizen, please take the time to sign this petition
DemandProgress.org - Petition to Stop the Internet Blacklist!
Update: Also for US citizens, you can email your Senator from the following link and tell him or her your concerns about this bill
Tell Your Senator: No Website Blacklists, No Internet Censorship!
Update, from EFF's website: the Senate Judiciary Committee postponed the scheduled markup of the Internet censorship bill � a fantastic outcome, given that the entertainment industry and their allies in Congress had hoped this bill would be quickly approved before the Senators went home for the October recess. Massive thanks to all who used the EFF Action Center to write to your Senators to oppose this bill. |
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Torrents will just evolve into something else if this gets passed. And then they will have to pass another bill.. the cyle will continue. |
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Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Whatever. They can remove whatever websites they want, and censor the internet however they want, but users will still find effective and convenient ways to distribute files. |
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lalartu
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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it's napster all over again. they kill that one, the new system, way better and way faster will pop out
plus IRC will always be around. can't silence the truth! |
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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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The US has no power over internet sites in any country that doesn't sign any treaty.
They can introduce all they want, if other countries refuse to enforce it they're hung out to dry.
Last edited by crossmr on Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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There already is a superior solution. Unfortunately it is pay-per-direct download, but that will change soon. |
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excaza
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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crossmr wrote: |
The US has no power over internet sites in any country that doesn't sign any treaty.
They can introduce all they want, if other countries refuse to enforce it they're hung out to dry. |
They're not looking to enforce it on a per-website level, they're looking for power at the ISP level. If there's federal power to tell the ISPs what sites to allow and what to block, it doesn't matter where the website is.
Granted, I don't see this happening, and even if it did, it wouldn't be effective. Getting around blocks is stupidly easy, plus they're going to have to play whack-a-mole with the trackers. |
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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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excaza wrote: |
crossmr wrote: |
The US has no power over internet sites in any country that doesn't sign any treaty.
They can introduce all they want, if other countries refuse to enforce it they're hung out to dry. |
They're not looking to enforce it on a per-website level, they're looking for power at the ISP level. If there's federal power to tell the ISPs what sites to allow and what to block, it doesn't matter where the website is.
Granted, I don't see this happening, and even if it did, it wouldn't be effective. Getting around blocks is stupidly easy, plus they're going to have to play whack-a-mole with the trackers. |
They'll only be able to block them in the US. It will have no affect on the rest of the world. |
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languistic
Joined: 25 Nov 2009
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Torrents are countable. |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:52 am Post subject: |
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lalartu wrote: |
it's napster all over again. they kill that one, the new system, way better and way faster will pop out
plus IRC will always be around. can't silence the truth! |
AMEN!
But... maybe we should keep quiet about it, lol. |
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excaza
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:43 am Post subject: |
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crossmr wrote: |
excaza wrote: |
crossmr wrote: |
The US has no power over internet sites in any country that doesn't sign any treaty.
They can introduce all they want, if other countries refuse to enforce it they're hung out to dry. |
They're not looking to enforce it on a per-website level, they're looking for power at the ISP level. If there's federal power to tell the ISPs what sites to allow and what to block, it doesn't matter where the website is.
Granted, I don't see this happening, and even if it did, it wouldn't be effective. Getting around blocks is stupidly easy, plus they're going to have to play whack-a-mole with the trackers. |
They'll only be able to block them in the US. It will have no affect on the rest of the world. |
I know, but precedents are dangerous :p |
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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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excaza wrote: |
crossmr wrote: |
excaza wrote: |
crossmr wrote: |
The US has no power over internet sites in any country that doesn't sign any treaty.
They can introduce all they want, if other countries refuse to enforce it they're hung out to dry. |
They're not looking to enforce it on a per-website level, they're looking for power at the ISP level. If there's federal power to tell the ISPs what sites to allow and what to block, it doesn't matter where the website is.
Granted, I don't see this happening, and even if it did, it wouldn't be effective. Getting around blocks is stupidly easy, plus they're going to have to play whack-a-mole with the trackers. |
They'll only be able to block them in the US. It will have no affect on the rest of the world. |
I know, but precedents are dangerous :p |
What precedents? As much as the US would like to think so, they are not the boss of the world. The rest of the countries in the world are sovereign states. one country deciding to block sites (which already happens) isn't going to turn around and make the rest of the world start blocking them. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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I'm proud to say that the courts in my home country, Ireland, have ruled against cutting off the internet to downloaders. Quite right too.
I expect most countries will make the same ruling.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11521949 |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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crossmr wrote: |
The US has no power over internet sites in any country that doesn't sign any treaty.
They can introduce all they want, if other countries refuse to enforce it they're hung out to dry. |
Someone should tell Barack Obama that. |
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