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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's only so much fun you can have listening to thumping techno without taking drugs. Isn't that the main reason people back home go to these clubs?
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PigeonFart



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other people have mentioned the culture thing, and that's an important point.

The Korean people are overly-concerned about what others think, they're not well travelled, they rarely talk to someone who wasn't born within 300km from their house. Therefore the problem with Korean nightlife is the Koreans themselves. Foreigners are more open to meeting new people. Koreans like to be with the same people they're with every other week.

The atmosphere in a place is much better when there are more foreigners, at least from my perspective. Maybe Koreans like their nightlife, i dont know. They probably have never experienced anything different.
I think a place that has a 50% foreigner/korean crowd is a good place. Of course it's easier for foreigners to let their hair down in Korea because they're far from home. Maybe i'd be more of a wall-flower or uptight if i was in my own country.

Another problem with korean nightlife is that there are too many places to go. So often many clubs are half empty (even on a Friday night!).

Although i do like the fact that Koreans binge drink. At least that livens them up a little bit.

I go out to meet people! Watch the koreans the next time you go out. How often do they approach strangers? (rarely).
If a stranger approaches them, how do they respond? (with slight fear).

Give me a North American *beep* anyday.
p.s. I've noticed significantly less Candian women out in Hongdae these days, compared to a year or two ago. Where are they going?
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
The list of greying, has-been djs doesn't help the case much either.


Do you mean older western DJs, or Korean guys? I think the older guys have the patience and sense to build a night properly, while the young Korean dudes will go in at 9:00 PM and crank out prime time tunes at full volume...as an industry friend of mine once said to a young Korean DJ who made that transgression while he was warming up for Way Out West's Nick Warren, "Dude, give it somewhere to go."
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methdxman



Joined: 14 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PigeonFart wrote:
Other people have mentioned the culture thing, and that's an important point.

The Korean people are overly-concerned about what others think, they're not well travelled, they rarely talk to someone who wasn't born within 300km from their house. Therefore the problem with Korean nightlife is the Koreans themselves. Foreigners are more open to meeting new people. Koreans like to be with the same people they're with every other week.

The atmosphere in a place is much better when there are more foreigners, at least from my perspective. Maybe Koreans like their nightlife, i dont know. They probably have never experienced anything different.
I think a place that has a 50% foreigner/korean crowd is a good place. Of course it's easier for foreigners to let their hair down in Korea because they're far from home. Maybe i'd be more of a wall-flower or uptight if i was in my own country.

Another problem with korean nightlife is that there are too many places to go. So often many clubs are half empty (even on a Friday night!).

Although i do like the fact that Koreans binge drink. At least that livens them up a little bit.

I go out to meet people! Watch the koreans the next time you go out. How often do they approach strangers? (rarely).
If a stranger approaches them, how do they respond? (with slight fear).

Give me a North American *beep* anyday.
p.s. I've noticed significantly less Candian women out in Hongdae these days, compared to a year or two ago. Where are they going?



Have you been/lived to/in any other place besides Korea? This is not a phenomenon unique to Korea. I could probably name like 100 places that are like this outside of Korea.

Yeah, Koreans are scaredy cats but so are lots of cultures.

And in North America, yeah you'll see cultures mix a lot, but that's just because of necessity and not want. In reality the majority of minorities prefer the company of their own for various reasons. I don't know about Canada but in the US everything is still very much segregated. And in terms of being a minority in the States, I will NEVER be seen as an equal in the US to the majority, although it doesn't really matter to me.

I do have to say that Koreans go a bit overboard with their culture especially when they're abroad. I remember I was talking on the phone with my mother in Korean (while I was in Spain) and when I was done this small group of Koreans approached me to ask if I was Korean. What do you want me to do? Show you around the city?

Koreans will also do ridiculous things such as go to Korean restaurants while traveling and pretty much keep to themselves.

I think the younger generation is quite different, though.
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neilsputnik



Joined: 11 Nov 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joey Negro 23 October at Heaven. I'm..... THERE.

Been meaning to catch him for a while and always missed out for some reason or another.

Woop Woop.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tottenhamtaipeinick wrote:
Seoulmann wrote:
sure some so so clubs, nothing really great.
sure some big name Dj's who come to play.
what korea needs is to Relax, so posing at tables and paying 1000bucks for VP stuff etc.. and Actually get up and dance. standing in the middle of the dance floor and taking pictures of the Dj is lame.
someone needs to off loads 1 million pills in this city and let the Koreans free


Thanx seoulsucker, it sounds very much like the Taipei Club scene which I loved and got abit addicted to. Since moving back to Australia I have only been once out clubbing once and it was horrible!. Drunk Aussies wearing t-shirts and old sneakers to a club jumping up and down..I cant wait to experience a good night again.. I will PM when I get closer to going over to Seoul...

Seoulmann... I cant tell you how many different people I met at Asian Clubs, and hey if you are socially gifted and look good and can dress the part you having some amazing nights on the house at clubs in Taipei especially being a white guy.


For the size of the city, Taipei beats the hell out of Seoul in terms of clubbing.
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RMNC



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's weird, since getting back home, I've seen Koreans go to EDM clubs in the states... and they still just hang out in their little group, never socialize with anyone else, never dance with anyone else, just each other. It's very... Korean.

Don't expect to have Koreans coming up to you often, usually it's up to you to run up alongside them and try to tell them how beautiful they are and that you want to buy them drinks or whatever. Assertiveness is key.
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Ralphie



Joined: 24 Mar 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tottenhamtaipeinick wrote:
I cant tell you how many different people I met at Asian Clubs, and hey if you are socially gifted and look good and can dress the part you having some amazing nights on the house at clubs in Taipei especially being a white guy.


northway wrote:
For the size of the city, Taipei beats the hell out of Seoul in terms of clubbing.


I'm heading to Taipei in December. Can you guys gave me some names of clubs? Thanks!
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Therefore the problem with Korean nightlife is the Koreans themselves. Foreigners are more open to meeting new people. Koreans like to be with the same people they're with every other week.

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t's weird, since getting back home, I've seen Koreans go to EDM clubs in the states... and they still just hang out in their little group, never socialize with anyone else, never dance with anyone else, just each other. It's very... Korean.


And here's where I disagree. Of the Koreans I know, there isn't a single one I haven't seen an example of them being more social than myself. Going up to new people in bars and clubs and talking to them. They are perhaps shy in the process but they still do it. And I've had many, many Koreans, maybe in the hundreds now, come up to me and start talking.

And for the second quote - Koreans in the states only hanging around with other Koreans isnt remotely a Korean thing. In England, You will see chinese in vast numbers, creating their own little china towns. Black people from all over forming their own little communities. Not because they're all from Nigeria, but because they all have similar skin colour (I'm not assuming here - I lived with two black girls who talked about it with me).

Birds of a feather flock together, in the case of Koreans as foreigners.

I might just spend my whole time on Dave's correcting Korean stereotypes based on my experiences.
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Fat_Elvis



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: In the ghetto

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
The list of greying, has-been djs doesn't help the case much either.


I'm guessing here you meant touring DJs - so true. DJs or electronic acts who tour here are often either nobodies, has beens or cheesy superstar DJs. Just once I'd like to see someone here who's doing something interesting with the music. I see who tours through Japan and I wish they'd come here.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralphie wrote:
northway wrote:
For the size of the city, Taipei beats the hell out of Seoul in terms of clubbing.


I'm heading to Taipei in December. Can you guys gave me some names of clubs? Thanks!


Spark, in the basement of 101, has the reputation of being the most happening place in the city at the moment, but I found it a bit unimpressive.

If you're going to be there on New Year's I highly recommend finding a party on the roof of the mall across from 101. I was there last year and was really close to 101, probably the best New Year's I've ever had. Tickets were $40 or so, including a couple free drinks. The one I went to was in a garden cafe in one of the Shinsegae buildings, you can probably find the info online.
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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat_Elvis wrote:
crescent wrote:
The list of greying, has-been djs doesn't help the case much either.


I'm guessing here you meant touring DJs - so true. DJs or electronic acts who tour here are often either nobodies, has beens or cheesy superstar DJs. Just once I'd like to see someone here who's doing something interesting with the music. I see who tours through Japan and I wish they'd come here.

Yes. And, likewise.
Those have-beens that come here, are only stopping in on their way to better venues in Japan, China, or Singapore anyway.
It's obvious why more current DJs don't stop here. I would skip Seoul too.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
Fat_Elvis wrote:
crescent wrote:
The list of greying, has-been djs doesn't help the case much either.


I'm guessing here you meant touring DJs - so true. DJs or electronic acts who tour here are often either nobodies, has beens or cheesy superstar DJs. Just once I'd like to see someone here who's doing something interesting with the music. I see who tours through Japan and I wish they'd come here.

Yes. And, likewise.
Those have-beens that come here, are only stopping in on their way to better venues in Japan, China, or Singapore anyway.
It's obvious why more current DJs don't stop here. I would skip Seoul too.


This is one place where Luv is starting to fill in the gaps. They've brought in a handful of solid DJ/producers over the past few months that aren't superstars, but are well-known to those who follow EDM. Spirit Catcher, Anthony Collins, Falcon, Quarion, etc.
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machoman



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreans in america are very exclusive as well. the asian community is pretty small where i'm from, so every asian pretty much know each other. i was in two different asian clubs at my uni and there were all kinds of asians in that club bc we were all friends, connected somehow. but, zero koreans. i never had any korean friends. i had chinese, taiwanese, cambodian, laosian, filipino, japanese, viet friends, but never even met a korean person.

then, i come to korea and i meet a korean american dude from my suburb who literally lived 10 minutes away and asked him how come we never met, and he said he only hung out with koreans.

but, i think the younger culture is changing, there seem to be less boundaries now. my younger sister is now in the same club as me (she's 7 years youger) and there are koreans in that club now.
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machoman



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, but i do have to add that asian groups in the US tend to be exclusive too. i tried to incorporate my non asian friends with my asian friends but it never works. i always had to have 2 sets of friends. asian friends, and non asian friends.
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