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neilio



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Getting your TESOL MA or equivalent in Seoul. Reply with quote

I'm having a B**** of a time finding the answer to this question, hoping that someone will be able to help.
What universities offer MA programs in TESOL or equivalent?

Thanks for any help
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Hotpants



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This topic has been covered a lot. Not sure, though, if you are also meaning distance courses to take while you are in Seoul?

To name a few:
Uni of Birmingham (UK based)
Open University (UK)
Sookmyung Women's University (Seoul, on-campus evening classes)
Macquarie Uni (Austr.)
plus a load of other US-based programs, which I'm sure other posters can list
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neilio



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested in taking it locally (as i'm afraid that an online MA will be taken less seriously) , so there is Dankook and Sookmyung. Any others?
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

neilio wrote:
I'm interested in taking it locally (as i'm afraid that an online MA will be taken less seriously) , so there is Dankook and Sookmyung. Any others?


An online degree from Birmingham or Indiana or the schools listed above will be looked at much more seriously than one from a Korean Uni.
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neilio



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really. How does one know that?
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sigmundsmith



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

neilio wrote:
I'm interested in taking it locally (as i'm afraid that an online MA will be taken less seriously) , so there is Dankook and Sookmyung. Any others?


Have a look at what these two universities have in regard to sister universities. Also, contact the university directly. Find out who is running the program, how are they viewed inside/outside the country. Look at cost and scholarships for foreign students. Ask about teaching staff - what are their backgrounds, education, how long have they been teaching TESOL. What recognition do they have outside of Korea for if your planning to do further studies at a latter date, will their MA be acceptable/recognized to allow you to do further studies. See if you can speak with current students of the respective programs.

You can get word of mouth information here. I will give you some now. Friend doing the Sookmyung MA TESOL now. They have a friend doing the one at Dankook. THey compare what both were studying and what the work load was like. THe one at Dankook was way behind Sookmyung.

This is also second hand information. The "professors" at Dankook MA TESOL (not all) have MA degrees but not Phd's while Sookmyung MA TESOL all have Phd's.

I'll reiterate, go contact the university themselves and speak to the people in charge. Information here will be conflicting.

I suggest you do a search of universities in Korea (list) and go into their websites (the majority - if not all - have English versions) and see if they offer MA TESOL - shouldnt take you too long to do - google/wikipedia is your friend


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definitely maybe



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://fscku.wetpaint.com/

This might interest you. The second cohort is halfway through, and the coordinator should be fielding a list of potential applicants for the next group.
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livinginkorea



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Location: Korea, South of the border

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sigmundsmith wrote:
neilio wrote:
I'm interested in taking it locally (as i'm afraid that an online MA will be taken less seriously) , so there is Dankook and Sookmyung. Any others?


Have a look at what these two universities have in regard to sister universities. Also, contact the university directly. Find out who is running the program, how are they viewed inside/outside the country. Look at cost and scholarships for foreign students. Ask about teaching staff - what are their backgrounds, education, how long have they been teaching TESOL. What recognition do they have outside of Korea for if your planning to do further studies at a latter date, will their MA be acceptable/recognized to allow you to do further studies. See if you can speak with current students of the respective programs.

You can get word of mouth information here. I will give you some now. Friend doing the Sookmyung MA TESOL now. They have a friend doing the one at Dankook. THey compare what both were studying and what the work load was like. THe one at Dankook was way behind Sookmyung.

This is also second hand information. The "professors" at Dankook MA TESOL (not all) have MA degrees but not Phd's while Sookmyung MA TESOL all have Phd's.

I'll reiterate, go contact the university themselves and speak to the people in charge. Information here will be conflicting.

I suggest you do a search of universities in Korea (list) and go into their websites (the majority - if not all - have English versions) and see if they offer MA TESOL - shouldnt take you too long to do - google/wikipedia is your friend


Dankook is shorter than Sookmyung (4 semesters compared to 5), has more 'professors' (7 compared to 3 - all have at least a MA, with the rest doing or have a PhD). Classes are in blocks scheduled on Thursdays 6.30~9 and Saturdays 10~8 only, lasting 2 and a half hours. You do not have to do a thesis but the option is there if you wish.

Also, let's be honest, Sookmyung was the first MA TESOL course in Korea and have been running a good 10 years more than Dankook at least. They also offer another 4 courses where Dankook offers just the MA in TESOL for the time being. Naturally, the course work would also reflect that. I think personally that Dankook is focused more on practical classroom applications while Sookmyung is probably more theoretical. I do not know how many students Sookmyung has but Dankook has close to 100 students with 20 being the cap per class. Sookmyung surely has more.

Ajou Uni. in Suwon has a course too but have no details about it. It seems that every second uni in Korea has a TESOL course thesedays.
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neilio



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah, thanks for the info, helps a lot.

Everytime I search for something with University/Seoul/MA/TESOL/...I get a bunch of job postings rather than university course listings. I still want to look into all the schools at least a little bit, know of any others?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't restrict yourself to TESOL. Korea University, for example, offers MA/PhD programs in Linguistics, English and English Education. Each of these departments is a viable choice for someone thinking about continuing their education with a view towards a career in language teaching. Think about what interests you and whether you'll be in language teaching for the rest of your working life. If you think that theoretical approaches to second language acquisition is more your cup-of-tea, then do an MA in Linguistics. If you like reading and literature, do an MA in English, and if your into the practical side of teaching English as an additional language, then go for an English Ed. MA. Each of these degrees is applicable to English teaching, but they don't pigeon hole you if you decide to pursue a different career path in the future.

Good programs can be found at SNU, YU, KU and HUFS, as well as Kookmin U.

Korea University list of Departments and Majors: http://graduate2.korea.ac.kr/programs/programs01.jsp

Yonsei University English Language and Literature Program: http://cmsdv.yonsei.ac.kr/grade/sub02/sub0202/1184457_2935.asp

Seoul National University Linguistics Program: http://plaza.snu.ac.kr/~linguist/new/english.php
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sigmundsmith



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neilio wrote:
ah, thanks for the info, helps a lot.

Everytime I search for something with University/Seoul/MA/TESOL/...I get a bunch of job postings rather than university course listings. I still want to look into all the schools at least a little bit, know of any others?


like i said before do a list of universities in seoul through google like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_Seoul

which then gives you a list like this:

A list of universities in Seoul, South Korea:
Chungang University
Chugye University for the Arts
Dongguk University
Dongduk Women's University
Duksung Women's University
Ewha Womans University
Hankuk University of Foreign Studies
Hansung University **
Hanyang University
Hongik University
Kwangwoon University
Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology
Korea Development Institute
Konkuk University
Kookmin University
Korea National Open University
Korean National Sports University **
Korean National University of Arts **
Korea University
Kyonggi University **
Kyunghee University
Myongji University
Sahmyook University
Sangmyung University
Sejong University **
Seokyeong University **
Seoul National University
Seoul National University of Education
Seoul National University of Technology
Seoul Women's University
Sogang University
Sungshin Women's University
Sookmyung Women's University
Soongsil University
Sungkyunkwan University
University of Seoul
Yonsei University

Then click on the link or search google with the univeristy name and go into their graduate school and see if they offer the MA in TESOL or whatever. E.g.

http://www.useoul.edu/academic/aca0102.jsp

This link gives a list of all graduate programs. Look through yourself and see if there is anything you like.

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Dankook is shorter than Sookmyung (4semesters compared to 5), has more 'professors' (7 compared to 3 - all have at least a MA, with the rest doing or have a PhD). Classes are in blocks scheduled on Thursdays 6.30~9 and Saturdays 10~8 only, lasting 2 and a half hours. You do not have to do a thesis but the option is there if you wish.

Also, let's be honest, Sookmyung was the first MA TESOL course in Korea and have been running a good 10 years more than Dankook at least. They also offer another 4 courses where Dankook offers just the MA in TESOL for the time being. Naturally, the course work would also reflect that. I think personally that Dankook is focused more on practical classroom applications while Sookmyung is probably more theoretical. I do not know how many students Sookmyung has but Dankook has close to 100 students with 20 being the cap per class. Sookmyung surely has more.


WOW. getting taught in an MA program by people who dont even have a PHD? Interesting! My friend at Sookmyung said there are practicle subjects there but they also offer linguistic subjects as well
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livinginkorea



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sigmundsmith wrote:


WOW. getting taught in an MA program by people who dont even have a PHD? Interesting! My friend at Sookmyung said there are practicle subjects there but they also offer linguistic subjects as well


Yes quite a lot of linguistic subjects offered so there is a nice mix every semester. Once you complete the core courses (SLA, Methodologies, Research Methods and Testing) then you can pick whatever electives you wish.

As I said about the PhD, everybody has or is working on one. To be honest, at Birmingham I was taught by a couple of professors who were working on their PhD at the time when I was doing my MA. They have their PhD now and I had no problems at the time - they clearly knew their stuff. I think there is more to it then having a PhD to teach a MA course. Experience and publications for one.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested in this too, but I'm having trouble finding US universities that offer programs in Korea ... I have to agree with previous posters who stated that degrees from those programs probably carry more weight than most Korean programs.

Is there a list somewhere?
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definitely maybe



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NStarun wrote:
I'm interested in this too, but I'm having trouble finding US universities that offer programs in Korea ... I have to agree with previous posters who stated that degrees from those programs probably carry more weight than most Korean programs.

Is there a list somewhere?


I already posted a link, but perhaps I wasn't specific enough. Framingham State University out of Massachusetts has an international education MEd in TESL program that holds intensive classes during vacations at Korea University-Jochiwon.
http://www.framingham.edu/graduate-and-continuing-education/graduate-programs/international-education-home.html

This link was set up specifically by the first on-site coordinator. Some of the information might be a little bit out of date, but it gives you an idea of what's going on: http://fscku.wetpaint.com/
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NStarun



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read that before but I haven't heard of Framingham University before. Are they the only US-based option? A few google searches later and I'm not finding any others ...
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