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guava
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| Hindsight wrote: |
| Apparently some posters here are so dense they can dangerously misunderstand anything more complex than a bumper sticker. |
As you posted this following my post, are you referring to me? Could you elaborate on that? |
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guava
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| Hindsight wrote: |
There's a surprising amount of nutritional nonsense floating around the Web.* It seems some people believe what they want to believe. On the plus side, it's not too difficult to do a little research to check these claims.
* Here's an exercise. Someone told me recently that cooking with aluminum cookware causes cancer. Sound plausible? Try checking this claim on the Web. |
Science News
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070831210302.htm
�Aluminium is a metalloestrogen, it is genotoxic, is bound by DNA and has been shown to be carcinogenic. It is also a pro-oxidant and this unusual property might provide a mechanistic basis for any putative carcinogenicity. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:04 am Post subject: |
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| refrigeration for eggs isn't necessary. america is one of the few countries that does that (apparently.) |
Unfortunately Korea is doing it now. It makes the whites runny. An egg, if unwashed, can stay fresh at room temp for a couple of weeks or more.
A hen lays one egg a day until she has 12-15, then she sits on them in order that they all start incubating at the same time and hatch in 21 days.
Thus, one of those eggs was 12 to 15 days old before she started the incubation process. And, the egg does not need to be fertile to stay fresh all of that time. Of course it will not hatch. I used to hatch chicken eggs in an incubator. After 22 days, I would break open the ones that did not hatch. They were not fertile. However, even after 22 days at about 100 degrees F. they were not rotten. I did, however, toss them out in the garden. If the eggs are washed, it removes a protective film and they will not stay fresh as long. Although Koreans are putting them in refrigeration in stores, they are still unwashed. Thus, I do not refrigerate after I get them home. I have 2 raw everyday. I have been doing that most of my life. Never had a problem. When everyone else is sick; I am not. Egg yolks are also the number one source of lecithin. The word comes from Greek for egg yolk. They have known since the 1940's that it keeps arteries clean of plague and prevents fatty liver. And, did you all know that the majority of fat in an egg is monosaturated. The best fat of all because it raises good cholesterol. Yes, the incredible edible egg. Oh, and I am sure you all know that the bad cholesterol we eat does not raise our bad cholesterol. It is made from saturated fats we eat. Shrimp, shellfish, octopus and squid are off the charts in bad cholesterol content. However, with almost no saturated fats, they do not raise bad cholesterol. And just think of the nutrition that must be in an egg for it to produce a chick. When that chick hatches, it has bones, skin, muscles, fur, blood, eyes, liver, lungs, brain, kidneys, thyroid gland, toe nails, etc. etc. etc. WOW. All that was needed to make a life that is so complex and well developed that after it dries off and sleeps a little, before it drinks or eats for the first time it can run around following its mother (or me). Actually, the first time I hatched some chicks I was so worried because they would not eat or drink. Many wait until they are one or two days old before they start. They have enough water in them and energy that they do not need to eat or drink right away. No food can be better for our health.
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| dory wrote: |
| I agree--you have to eat them. Food, even nutritious but semi-liquid food, needs to be chewed. This is why I always spoon my smoothies. |
Needs to be chewed? Do your teeth impart a magical chemical that aids in digestion?
Chewing is a mechanical function. Saliva does break down starch, but that doesn't mean you have to chew liquids. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:33 am Post subject: Re: Eating raw Korean eggs? |
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| Seoul'n'Corea wrote: |
| Nuggets wrote: |
What does everyone think about eating Korean eggs raw? I'm in the midst of a health 'thing'. And this is something I'm willing to try, everyone has seen the unrefrigerated eggs laying around in the markets. I've read this is actually better for the eggs, as refrigeration destroys some of the proteins, best to store them somewhere cool. It's easier to tell if an egg is bad if it's unrefrigerated. Salmonella poisoning is also pretty rare, about a 0.003% chance, and if you get it and you are healthy, it ain't no biggie.
Anyone have experience with this? Thoughts? |
Well considering the average Korean doesn't understand that leaving eggs in a 25-30degree C store on a shelf for a month is bad. I personally wouldn't DARE try eating any raw eggs. Especially with the idiotic food handling practices I have seen here. |
Food handling here isn't any worse than it is back in the West. Take glove laws/regulations for example. Suddenly, some of the less-than-bright food workers think they suddenly have magic hands that cant get dirty. They'll go from touching the floor or handling raw meat to handling RTE food without a glove change. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| interestedinhanguk wrote: |
| dory wrote: |
| I agree--you have to eat them. Food, even nutritious but semi-liquid food, needs to be chewed. This is why I always spoon my smoothies. |
Needs to be chewed? Do your teeth impart a magical chemical that aids in digestion?
Chewing is a mechanical function. Saliva does break down starch, but that doesn't mean you have to chew liquids. |
...yes...they do. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| machoman wrote: |
| refrigeration for eggs isn't necessary. america is one of the few countries that does that (apparently.) |
Unfortunately Korea is doing it now. It makes the whites runny. An egg, if unwashed, can stay fresh at room temp for a couple of weeks or more.
A hen lays one egg a day until she has 12-15, then she sits on them in order that they all start incubating at the same time and hatch in 21 days.
Thus, one of those eggs was 12 to 15 days old before she started the incubation process. And, the egg does not need to be fertile to stay fresh all of that time. Of course it will not hatch. I used to hatch chicken eggs in an incubator. After 22 days, I would break open the ones that did not hatch. They were not fertile. However, even after 22 days at about 100 degrees F. they were not rotten. I did, however, toss them out in the garden. If the eggs are washed, it removes a protective film and they will not stay fresh as long. Although Koreans are putting them in refrigeration in stores, they are still unwashed. Thus, I do not refrigerate after I get them home. I have 2 raw everyday. I have been doing that most of my life. Never had a problem. When everyone else is sick; I am not. Egg yolks are also the number one source of lecithin. The word comes from Greek for egg yolk. They have known since the 1940's that it keeps arteries clean of plague and prevents fatty liver. And, did you all know that the majority of fat in an egg is monosaturated. The best fat of all because it raises good cholesterol. Yes, the incredible edible egg. Oh, and I am sure you all know that the bad cholesterol we eat does not raise our bad cholesterol. It is made from saturated fats we eat. Shrimp, shellfish, octopus and squid are off the charts in bad cholesterol content. However, with almost no saturated fats, they do not raise bad cholesterol. And just think of the nutrition that must be in an egg for it to produce a chick. When that chick hatches, it has bones, skin, muscles, fur, blood, eyes, liver, lungs, brain, kidneys, thyroid gland, toe nails, etc. etc. etc. WOW. All that was needed to make a life that is so complex and well developed that after it dries off and sleeps a little, before it drinks or eats for the first time it can run around following its mother (or me). Actually, the first time I hatched some chicks I was so worried because they would not eat or drink. Many wait until they are one or two days old before they start. They have enough water in them and energy that they do not need to eat or drink right away. No food can be better for our health.
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eggsellent post...thanks for writing. 
We are getting some interesting information in this thread.
Of course a lot of it will be controversial...what we do with that well...anyone's call there.
As for eating eggs and the cholesterol debate.
I have heard the same...raw eggs are great for cleaning up bad cholesterol...but I also heard that cooked egg yolks become bad cholesterol...so kind of a vice for eggs in general...but again...a plus for eating raw eggs. |
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machoman
Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| the cholesterol egg debate has been going on for a while now. i remember in middle school or h.s, i read that you shouldn't eat more than 2 eggs a day because of the cholesterol content. but now, newer sources that i've read say that's not true. |
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Nuggets
Joined: 23 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Hey, jeez guys! 3 pages!?
I never knew such a mundane topic could pull in so many posts! I thought it'd die out in a few days or so, but you guys keep zapping it back to the top! Anyways, thanks for the ideas and info, I'm currently doing the p90x program, and never ate breakfast before. So, I was considering downing some raw eggs seeing that it'd take literally seconds to prepare. I've been eating boiled eggs each morning, but I think I'll try and switch it over to raw eggs to try new things, thanks! |
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Hindsight
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the edifying post, Kwangjuchicken.
So the problem with refrigeration is the whites get runny. I did not know that. I guess that's why they put the egg rack on the door at the top, where it is the warmest. If you don't over-cool your frig, the eggs might do better.
I've been downing one raw egg a day since my earlier post, and I must say it appears to give me a boost in energy. Could do with a tastier base, though. Perhaps a smoothie with a banana and some home made yogurt. Maybe mixed in orange juice? In Europe they make fresh mayonnaise with raw eggs.
If your egg shell is clean, you can punch little holes on either end and suck the raw egg out.
Here's some nutritional data on eggs. Be sure to set the serving size to one egg.
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/111/2
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/117/2 |
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Nuggets
Joined: 23 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:39 am Post subject: |
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That's a cool site! But, does it apply to Korean eggs? I mean, we're in Korea - where everything is backwards!
(For the real downers - it's a joke) |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| interestedinhanguk wrote: |
| dory wrote: |
| I agree--you have to eat them. Food, even nutritious but semi-liquid food, needs to be chewed. This is why I always spoon my smoothies. |
Needs to be chewed? Do your teeth impart a magical chemical that aids in digestion?
Chewing is a mechanical function. Saliva does break down starch, but that doesn't mean you have to chew liquids. |
...yes...they do. |
more information, please. |
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aussieb
Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Brisbane,Australia
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:55 am Post subject: |
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Break egg into glass.
Check to see it is not bad.
Tip contents of glass into your mouth.
Swallow.
The whole egg including unbroken yolk slips down like an oyster.
Break the yolk and you will experience the fou(w)l taste! |
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guava
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:54 am Post subject: |
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On this site, you can read the entire book�all 21 chapters�simply by using the table of contents menu on the left, access the more than 3,000 references, and search the content by topic index.
BIRD FLU
A VIRUS OF OUR OWN HATCHING
Soft-Boiled Truth
http://birdflubook.com/a.php?id=24
What about eggs?
"All of the proceeds I receive from all of my books and speaking engagements are donated to charity"
�Michael Greger, M.D. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Hindsight wrote: |
Thanks for the edifying post, Kwangjuchicken.
So the problem with refrigeration is the whites get runny. I did not know that. I guess that's why they put the egg rack on the door at the top, where it is the warmest. If you don't over-cool your frig, the eggs might do better.
I've been downing one raw egg a day since my earlier post, and I must say it appears to give me a boost in energy. Could do with a tastier base, though. Perhaps a smoothie with a banana and some home made yogurt. Maybe mixed in orange juice? In Europe they make fresh mayonnaise with raw eggs.
If your egg shell is clean, you can punch little holes on either end and suck the raw egg out.
Here's some nutritional data on eggs. Be sure to set the serving size to one egg.
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/111/2
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/117/2 |
I hope everyone sees this info. 1 large egg only has 5 grams of fat and only 2 grams are saturated; thus 3/5 grams are good fat. I have not yet found an animal product that has good fat except an egg. All other sources of good fat are plant. |
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