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take a rest



Joined: 15 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: CANDY Reply with quote

Man oh man... so I just started at this school, and things are not going too badly, but they should be better.

My problem is that every single lesson I teach, the kids expect to get candy at the end of it. I've talked to some of my more fluent students, and by the sounds of it, the previous teacher used to shower everyone with candy. To me, it sounds like it was because he wanted to be liked. He would sometimes give it away for free, for no reason... or to pacify the bad ones, I suppose.

I don't do this, I refuse. Instead, I make them collect stamps on a post-it note, and when they get 10, they can exchange the post-it for a chocopie or whatever. I think this is pretty reasonable... you have to earn rewards, that's why they're rewards... and answering one question really isn't such an amazing thing in my books.

But everyday, the kids are whining and complaining and going 'blah blah blah other teacher blah blah blah' like they're entitled to candy. Some of them actually seem to outright hate me because I'm not giving it out.

Anyway, if you are giving out cnady all the time every day, PLEASE STOP. IT MAKES IT HARD FOR THE TEACHER WHO WILL REPLACE YOU AND IT MAKES THE KIDS SPOILED AND HARD TO DEAL WITH.

That's all for now.
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Darkeru



Joined: 21 Apr 2010
Location: England

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My replacement should love me then. I've given out (traditional Brithsh) sweets a total of once and it was mostly to the teachers in the office. The only students who got some were the ones who come in to clean.

One of the people at this years SMOE orientation mentioned, give them 1 candy at first, they'll keep asking for more and more and for less difficult things.

I think the stamp system works work. Or the raffle system - everyone who does something gets a ticket and 2 or 3 get a few small pieces of candy.
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oldtactics



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree - there are way more effective rewards-based systems out there. There's a university blogger out there who I read regularly, and I love her methods besides the fact that she gives out candy. In university. TO ADULTS. Seriously? That's the best you can come up with?
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's worse when you send a kindergartner to the front desk to be disciplined and he comes back showing you his lollipop, completely oblivious to the fact that you want to go postal on the people who were meant to be disciplining him.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Candy -- BAD!
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Candy ain't bad, as long as you know when to give it away. I reserve my candy distribution for the end of the semesters, July and December. Especially December, the tests are done and half the teachers just put on movies anyways. The rest of the year I only give if the student did something to really impress me.
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vDroop



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing more rewarding (and inexpensive) than a high five.
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love this thread and I hate giving out candy.

It is banned in many American schools. Too much of a potential allergy liability. And it is just bad practice. Get a bit more creative with the rewards folks!

The raffle idea is great. No homework pass, sit by a friend, sit at the teacher's desk, lunch bunch with the teacher....

Let's make a list of FREE rewards that you can give students.
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murmanjake



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vDroop wrote:
Nothing more rewarding (and inexpensive) than a high five.


+1

I started to write up how awesome I think high fives are, but it got so long I decided to post it in my own thread.

But yes, candy is bad and lazy. Reward them with your attention. Punish them in the same way. Find ways to show that, yes indeedy, teacher cares, and teacher is WATCHING.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One great reward I have found is the chance to leave the class first.

I divide my class into two teams. The winning team leaves first and they don't have to push their chair in, the losing team straightens the desks and chairs and then they can leave.

Works great. I love pair pressure.
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Carla



Joined: 21 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will give out candy every once in a while. Maybe every other month or so. But it just depends on the class. Not all classes are equal. If I have candy around, and a random student comes in early or comes to the office for help, I'll give them a piece for no reason if I like them, especially if I have a bunch of candy other students have given me.

Usually when students get on this "Candy please" trip, I start saying, "Candy? Really, yes, give me some."
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take a rest



Joined: 15 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vDroop wrote:
Nothing more rewarding (and inexpensive) than a high five.


You know, I don't like doing this very much... to me, it's like I'm saying 'I'm not a teacher, I'm one of you'. Some kids try to get me to give them high fives/be physical with affection or whatever, and I just think it's weird and not teacherly... none of the other teachers at my school do this, so why should I?

I'm not saying I'm super professional teacher or anything, but you really do need to keep your distance and I think high fives send a certain kind of message that shouldn't be sent... even if the kid did do something amazing or whatever.

Actually, I prefer candy to high fives... with candy, you can just say 'okay, so and so, you did well today... you get to come with me to my office' and then I politely give them candy there and say 'good job'. But with high fives you have to be all hyper and goofy and casual and say something like 'OH YEAH MAN U R SO AWESOME HIGH FIVE ME!' in front of the whole class. I gotta admit, I tend to be a little condescending (not in a mean way, but in a way where they know I'm not going to make too much of an idiot of myself)... I guess because middle schoolers sort of need to be talked down to when they're doing something dumb (and they do dumb things sometimes), and treated like they should know better.

I know I can give them candy and say 'yes, this is what you like, but to me it's just candy and it's nothing special, what you did to get it is what was special-- and I'm pretty sure you know that too'... but with a high five, it's sort of more about me being like this goofy superstar entertainer person.

Again, just my opinion.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I candy no.

High fives (yes)
"Excellent" (yes)
"Good Job" (yes)
"Good speaking" (yes)
"That's the best speaking I've heard in this school" (yes)

Finger slash across the throat (yes - once or twice a year).

Good luck.
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was getting a bit addicted to candy giving, and I'm trying to cut down... I was finding that rewarding the "winning team" after a game of semi-chance (like BAAM) felt a bit unfair, and that I was giving EVERYBODY candy for "good game".

So for the past week, I've been not giving candy after "good games" because the game was good enough... that hasn't backfired yet.

Maybe I'll keep the candy around as a surprise, or to get attention in the worst, least deserving classes (unfortunately, I do this).
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Swampthing



Joined: 10 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give candy, but in moderation.

I award points to each group based on their answer, and try to choose different groups based on the score which I record on a peice of paper, so I spread the points around.

Each group that has the highest and second highest score gets candy,

If I see a low level student participating and trying to answer questions, I will also award them candy for improved effort.

But thats it.
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