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Skyblue



Joined: 02 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:22 am    Post subject: Tax Evasion Reply with quote

Seriously. Is anyone paying 20-35% income tax in their home countries on the income they're getting from Korea?

Do you report accommodation provided here as income?

Say you were audited, would it be easy for Revenue Canada to figure out that you were earning a salary in the ROK?

It seems an awful shame to just give a whole bunch of money to the government.
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vDroop



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada has a tax free treaty with South Korea, so we don't have to as long as we have a legal working visa. (last I checked...)

Please tell me this hasn't changed...
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JD_Tiberius



Joined: 16 Nov 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not tax evasion, its tax avoidance, and its completely legal.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vast majority of developed countries have waivers on taxes earned abroad. The US does, though some states still charge you the state rate. I'm not paying my Massachusetts taxes, and will pay them if I ever actually move back to the state that still claims me as a resident (though I haven't lived there since I became a legal adult).
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as you don't have a home or wife in Canada, you are fine.

If not, you are screwed.
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The Happy Warrior



Joined: 10 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

US Federal has an $82,000 exclusion for income earned abroad. If you're making more than that teaching English, just suck it up and pay the tax already.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vDroop wrote:
Canada has a tax free treaty with South Korea, so we don't have to as long as we have a legal working visa. (last I checked...)

Please tell me this hasn't changed...


I think you are missinformed....

I would like to know where you saw this.

Last time I checked, Canadians working in Korea could be taxed on their Korean income depending on their links to Canada (home, bank accounts, credit cards, medical card, drivers liscence...).

Read up:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/nnrsdnts/cmmn/rsdncy-eng.html
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redaxe



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Happy Warrior wrote:
US Federal has an $82,000 exclusion for income earned abroad. If you're making more than that teaching English, just suck it up and pay the tax already.


It's actually up to $91,400 now. You have to meet a few conditions, though. You must be one of the following:

-A U.S. citizen who is a bona fide resident of a foreign country or countries for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year

-A U.S. resident alien who is a citizen or national of a country with which the United States has an income tax treaty in effect and who is a bona fide resident of a foreign country or countries for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year, or

-A U.S. citizen or a U.S. resident alien who is physically present in a foreign country or countries for at least 330 full days during any period of 12 consecutive months

There's so much misinformation floating around Dave's about this topic, but all the correct information is right on the IRS website:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/international/article/0,,id=97130,00.html
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still pay my property taxes for New York.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
I still pay my property taxes for New York.


I still pay sales tax when I visit home. Laughing
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machoman



Joined: 11 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm an idiot, so i have an idiot question. this is my 3rd year teaching here, the 2 year tax exemption was an exemption from paying korean taxes correct? now that it's my 3rd year, i have to pay korean taxes, right? how do i do that? do i need to file anything?
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Skyblue



Joined: 02 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
vDroop wrote:
Canada has a tax free treaty with South Korea, so we don't have to as long as we have a legal working visa. (last I checked...)

Please tell me this hasn't changed...


I think you are missinformed....

I would like to know where you saw this.

Last time I checked, Canadians working in Korea could be taxed on their Korean income depending on their links to Canada (home, bank accounts, credit cards, medical card, drivers liscence...).

Read up:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/nnrsdnts/cmmn/rsdncy-eng.html


You're talking about residency, no? Thinking about going non-resident too. Anyone gone down that road?

I want an offshore bank account. I looked into Internaxx, but they don't accept CAD residents. Lloyds requires min. $25K to start (pounds maybe) and HSBC works about to about $300 a year just to hold the account.

Kind of a pain in the ass, and except for Internaxx, those other two are only denominated in euros, pounds, and greenbacks.

What is your tax avoidance strategy?

(And what is the difference between avoidance and evasion?)
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youtuber



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyblue,

If you have significant ties to Canada, there is no "avoidance" strategy. If you get audited, you could be on the hook for a lot of money.

Significant ties = property in Canada (house, land, cars), wife or kids in Canada

loose ties = bank accounts, gym memberships, credit cards, magazine subscriptions, health insurance

So, a tax court would look at your ties and determine if you were considered a "resident" or not in Canada while you were in Korea. Many loose ties can cause you to be considered "resident" in Canada.

A good rule of thumb is to sever your ties in Canada and establish new ties in Korea that are parallel to the ones you severed. For example, sever your Canadian credit cards and get some Korean credit cards. Sell you Canadian land and buy Korean land, ect. ect.

The significant ties are the ones that could be trouble for you. You cannot be considered a "non-resident" if you have significant ties in Canada.

I would guess that as long as you have no significant ties, and not many loose ties, a Canadian bank account shouldn't be a problem. Ie no taxes.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Youtuber is right skyblue.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyblue wrote:
(And what is the difference between avoidance and evasion?)


Avoidance is legal, evasion isn't.
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