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[baldrick]

OK, it goes like this.....
My Hogwan haven't told me this yet, but I know its in the pipeline. They want to cram my 5 day schedule into 4 days Monday - Thursday and on Friday they want to send me off to some other Hogwan in the countryside.
Now, I'm contracted for 30 hours a week TEACHING, and I only do about 18 hours at the moment. The contract does however say I'm only working for THIS acadamy. It seems to me like the directors conjured up a way to make more money out of me.

Would I be within my rights to demand some extra money before doing this? Although I'm not working my full quota of hours, I think its wrong in principle that the director benefits and I get nothing extra.
Anyone been in a similar situation?

[Mr. Pink]

Well isn't him sending you to another place ILLEGAL?

I'd refuse on those grounds.

Extra money is nice, but if you get in trouble with immigration - and you should know they are checking out hakwons these days - what is your school going to do about fines/deportation etc.?

My friend was a director at a Pagoda institute. He told me the Ministry of Education is cracking down HARD on hakwons, as a result a lot are getting "inspections" from the MoE and Immigration. If you remember that day the Minister of Education made that news announcement - that was the day it all started.

[crazylemongirl]

If you do ending up working for another institute then you should demand that the paperwork is taken care of as you will suffer far more than the director/s if you get caught. (they get a fine you get a fine, deportations, blackmarks etc.)

if yoou can get approval from immigration I would suggest that you ask for some costs for your transportation costs etc.

[peppermint]

I don't think you should ask for more money- but do make sure that your butt is covered. Refuse until the paperwork is done- it's just a signature on your ARC, and get transportation paid for.

[baldrick]

OK, so I just had 'the chat'.
The other Hogwan offered to pay transport, and a free lunch, no problems there. I work for GnB schools and its another GnB franchise they want me to go to, so franchise is the key word here, meaning it doesn't matter, it still needs an OK from immigration.
But, Mr Pink says its illegal. Do you mean illegal without permission from immigration??
Thanks for the advice.

[lush72]

[baldrick]

OK! So its illegal without a little bribe for immigration.
Actually, I'm coming round to the idea as well, only a 4 day week at this place and then fridays by the seaside (Daechon). Could work out nicely.

[Mr. Pink]

[Derrek]

Dude, you are taking a big risk here. You must INSIST on getting this OK'd by immigration.

This is a serious matter. Ask me, I got busted by immigrations once. Although my school paid my fine (500,000 won since i was only there for 2 days illegally) I still had to leave Korea (paying for the ticket myself) and come back. Then had to find work with another school.

I was also put on probation for 6 months. The whole mess ended up costing me a lot of money due to not working for another month too.

What you are doing is definately illegal. Your boss must go to immigrations and get it approved to work in 2 locations. Luckily, this is much more possible because it's the same company.

Get it done. Trust me -- it's more your butt than his!

[baldrick]

Yeah cheers,

This morning the boss sent his son the messenger round to say to me:
It's not a problem because we're the same school. Yeah, I said, but differant owner. Yeah he says, no problem.

Has the boss got something to gain out of not telling immigration, or is it just plain laziness on his part - whatever, its really annoying that even after I bought it up they persist in lying to me about it. They must think I'm really stupid.

[Kyrei]

The advice on this board, on this thread is correct. Immigration allows an E2 worker to have a primary visa, issued for the school you are currently working at, and a secondary visa which would be for the school your (IMHO money-grubbing) boss wants youto work at.

Regardless of the fact that they are the same chain, regardless of anything else... you MUST get a secondary visa to work in another school. Without it you are working illegally and are liable for damages/fines thus incurred.

Your boss is lying to you - or he is ignorant and too lazy to do the proper investigation. If you ignore the advice of people here then do so at your own risk and don't whine about how terrible Korea is when you get caught, fined, and deported.

Cover your own @$$ and get him to file the proper papers. There is no danger to him to do it properly, but there is a great danger to both of you if he doesn't.

Kyrei

[crazylemongirl]

I think the fee is about 30k you submit the paper work and they give you an endorsement on your ARC. You can find the Application for Alteration or Addition of Employment place here. Show it to your boss and get hime (or someone else who can) to help you fill it in.Go to immigration and get it sorted out.

It's really not a big deal and considering what could happen to you if you don't it's more than worth the effot.

[baldrick]

Cheers for the link.

Of course theres no way Im going to put my status here at risk.

I just find it mind boggling how even just now the messenger says: "OK, we know about this problem, but for your korean life its not a problem".

I going over for lunch at noon so I'll slap down that form and see what they say then.....!!

[baldrick]

OK anyone who had to hand in the form for adding a place of work to their alien card, did you have to change your contract - they are saying I have to sign a new contract before immigration accept.

[emby]

Hmmm, what was the outcome of your situation? I had never thought about it, but I am working for two different GnB schools, and in my contract I only signed up for one. When I arrived they told me that I was going between two schools, but I've never had to sign a new contract or update my alien registration info. It would be good to find out how it worked for you.