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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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 Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: Custom Gaming PC |
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Made my own topic instead of hijacking the other one. I am a hardcore FPS gamer. I'll be playing the new Medal of Honor, Call of Duty: Black Ops, Fallout New Vegas for starters. Any recommendations on Custom PC Manufacturing shops that have experience with liquid cooling?
Intel� Core� i7 960 Quad Core Processor (3.2GHz, 8MB Cache)
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1.5GB GDDR5 NVIDIA� GeForce� GTX 480 - SLI Capable
6GB Triple Channel 1600MHz DDR3
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eamo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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The high-end PC scene is pretty small in Korea.........the average PC gamer in Korea only requires something to run Starcraft and Counterstrike.....
I'm afraid I don't know where you would go for liquid cooling expertise.......ask the geekiest Korean you know to do a search for you!!!...........or walk around Yongsan until you see a unit with some water-cooling equipment. |
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Bloopity Bloop
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Location: Seoul yo
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vDroop
Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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I found 1, high performance shop in Yongsan. 1. (god I hate that place)
The guy was terrified of English and basically shoed me away. He wouldn't sell parts, only complete ridiculously overpriced custom rigs.
Anyway, other than the looks, why do you need it on water? The newest aftermarket heatsinks are really good for overclocks all the way up around 4.0 - 4.2 GHz.
In Korea, I just wouldn't bother with watercooling unless you are completely comfortable with ordering everything off of gmarket and doing it all yourself. You won't find much help if something goes wrong.
Ever looked at the Corsair H70 or H50? It's a really dumbed down version of watercooling but they look quite nice and they install as easy as air. |
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noky
Joined: 14 Jul 2010
Location: Yeongcheon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:48 am Post subject: |
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I saw some liquid cooling options on Danawa when I looking for PC stuff a month ago.
Simple fact is: parts are already more expensive here and the as stated earlier the high-end PC scene isn't very popular. In the end, you're not going to need liquid cooling. Black Ops and New Vegas are both running on old engines. I doubt Medal of Honor will really destroy a GTX 480 and the latest Crytek engine is more about console optimization rather than pushing the boundaries of modern technology (read: Crysis 2.5). Then again with a stupid powerful build as the one you're suggesting you're probably not concerned with needs but rather wants. I'd call up that trusty Korean friend and start poking around shops and check out Danawa. Expect a nice mark-up if you're getting it built. |
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sheriffadam
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:30 am Post subject: |
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I think you need to join a good forum to have a good read about watercooling rather than a shop to sell you stuff you don't know about 
Not taking the urine here, I've only ever had aircooled rigs, but wouldn't mind trying water later so have read some stuff here and there!
The more you read the more I guarantee you'll wanting to be importing tasty US spec stuff rather than what you find here! |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| vDroop wrote: |
I found 1, high performance shop in Yongsan. 1. (god I hate that place)
The guy was terrified of English and basically shoed me away. He wouldn't sell parts, only complete ridiculously overpriced custom rigs.
Anyway, other than the looks, why do you need it on water? The newest aftermarket heatsinks are really good for overclocks all the way up around 4.0 - 4.2 GHz.
In Korea, I just wouldn't bother with watercooling unless you are completely comfortable with ordering everything off of gmarket and doing it all yourself. You won't find much help if something goes wrong.
Ever looked at the Corsair H70 or H50? It's a really dumbed down version of watercooling but they look quite nice and they install as easy as air. |
btw, vDroop, not sure if you noticed, but I made a thread about apologizing to people I wasn't very nice to in Off-Topic--and YOU were one of them! If you missed it, sorry bro
I'm actually a nice dude and your advice here is sound. |
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vDroop
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
btw, vDroop, not sure if you noticed, but I made a thread about apologizing to people I wasn't very nice to in Off-Topic--and YOU were one of them! If you missed it, sorry bro
I'm actually a nice dude and your advice here is sound. |
Cheers mate! Yeah, I had missed that thread.
None of us are strangers to the occasional forum spat. Especially when tech nerds get into debates! It's always good to have varied opinions on stuff so the person needing help can better educate themselves and make their own decisions.
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crossmr
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| parts are already more expensive here and the as stated earlier the high-end PC scene isn't very popular |
Some parts are more expensive, not all parts are more expensive here, and a lot of those that are more expensive here are only more expensive by a trivial amount.
I just bought an i5 760 here shopping off Danawa and with exchange it was $20 cheaper than Newegg in the states.
on a $1000 machine with all parts being equal, the total price difference was only about $80 over about a dozen parts.
The only stuff that I've found to have a large price difference is brand new very high end stuff. Like a really large 10000 RPM HD I was looking at.
When I built my machine, I ended up pricing the difference using Danawa and Newegg, it's trivial at best. These are all prices on same parts the time I wrote this about 6 weeks ago.
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CPU
intel i5 750
danawa: 221,000W
Newegg: $208.00
Winner: Korea by about $20
Graphics Card
Gigabyte Geforce GTX 460 1GB
danawa: 299,000W
Newegg: $239.49
Winner: US by about $15
Motherboard
danawa: 254,000W
Newegg: $189.99
Winner: US by about $26
RAM
danawa: 148,500W
Newegg: $103.99
Winner: US by about $23
Power
Corsair 750W powersupply
danawa:224,100W
Newegg:$149.99
Winner: US by $41. This one might not be fair since Newegg seems to be running a promotion on this item. Perhaps a stock clear-out. Regular price difference only $11
Hard drives
Boot/main - Western digital 10000 RPM 150GB drive
danawa:215,000
Newegg:$179.99
Winner: US by $3
Storage - Seagate 7200 RPM 1TB
danawa: 71,300W
Newegg: $69.99
Winner: Korea by $7 |
I wrote that about 4 weeks before I bought the machine, and even in that time, the RAM price dropped about 10,000W. Now if you move away from getting those exact brands, you can get things even cheaper. I ended up not going with the corsair powersupply and got a different brand as the site I was ordering from didn't have that one, it was about 80,000W cheaper. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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^ The biggest price differences are for new graphics cards and motherboards.........
.....I'd love to put a second HD5850 in my gaming PC but the average price of 365,000 is a bit much for a card that was released 1 year ago!!! I bought my current HD5850 in January 2010 for 390,000...... It has only come down 25,000 won in almost a year! That sucks.
They're average $260 on Newegg.... = 290,000 won.
Remember, the prices on Danawa are usually bait and switch prices.....meaning that they rarely or never have that item at the cheaper price in stock.....but they use the tactic of phishing, so they won't have that item but they get the phone number of somebody who they know for sure wants to buy a graphics card....so they phone you and try to sell you whatever they have at invariably higher prices........great little marketing trick, eh. |
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| vDroop wrote: |
I found 1, high performance shop in Yongsan. 1. (god I hate that place)
The guy was terrified of English and basically shoed me away. He wouldn't sell parts, only complete ridiculously overpriced custom rigs.
Anyway, other than the looks, why do you need it on water? The newest aftermarket heatsinks are really good for overclocks all the way up around 4.0 - 4.2 GHz.
In Korea, I just wouldn't bother with watercooling unless you are completely comfortable with ordering everything off of gmarket and doing it all yourself. You won't find much help if something goes wrong.
Ever looked at the Corsair H70 or H50? It's a really dumbed down version of watercooling but they look quite nice and they install as easy as air. |
From what i've read i'll need to get a special watercooling case that has some exhaust fans on that that push the hot air out - but they're not cooling fans so they don't run the speeds (and hence generate the sound) that case fans do.
But point taken, i don't want to mess around with people or shops that don't have experience in water cooling. If nothing else i'll have to bear with the fan sound at night or sleep it and download during the day when i'm at work.
The high end PC is not about can it play the games NOW i guess so much as in the near future. Some of the engines are quite old, which points out a new engine in the next installments of the games most likely. Then again i've played on pretty good gaming PC's before (not top of the line though) and while singleplayer is great, often times in multiplayer the FPS drops incredibly - a result of either processor bottlenecking or graphics card. I used to do a lot of competitive gaming in COD and BF2 and it was really frustrating sometimes to get inconsistent FPS during clan matches...i really want to avoid that this time - even if it means a bit of overkill. |
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red_devil
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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I searched around and didn't find ANY shop that knew about liquid cooling...n00bs.
Ah well, so i'll have to go with the standard rig. Anyone had good experiences with any shops recently? |
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vDroop
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| red_devil wrote: |
I searched around and didn't find ANY shop that knew about liquid cooling...n00bs.
Ah well, so i'll have to go with the standard rig. Anyone had good experiences with any shops recently? |
Heh, figures.
Wouldn't even bother using a shop for anything high end here. Order the parts online (that's all the shop is going to do anyway) and built it yourself. |
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eamo
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| red_devil wrote: |
I searched around and didn't find ANY shop that knew about liquid cooling...n00bs.
Ah well, so i'll have to go with the standard rig. Anyone had good experiences with any shops recently? |
I haven't bought a computer component in a shop in 5 years! The only way to even find a source for high-end parts is online.......it's a heartless task to try to get really good highly-rated parts in Korea......upper mid-range is not so bad......high-end is pricey beyond belief.
The good news is you only need upper mid-range to max out most games today at 1920x1080......unless you're fronting a 30'' plus monitor which will do 2650x1600 then you don't actually need high-end.
What's your monitor? |
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| red_devil wrote: |
I searched around and didn't find ANY shop that knew about liquid cooling...n00bs.
Ah well, so i'll have to go with the standard rig. Anyone had good experiences with any shops recently? |
I haven't bought a computer component in a shop in 5 years! The only way to even find a source for high-end parts is online.......it's a heartless task to try to get really good highly-rated parts in Korea......upper mid-range is not so bad......high-end is pricey beyond belief.
The good news is you only need upper mid-range to max out most games today at 1920x1080......unless you're fronting a 30'' plus monitor which will do 2650x1600 then you don't actually need high-end.
What's your monitor? |
I'll probably grab a couple 27" 2ms LG or Samsung monitors. I really really don't have time to build my own computer or else i would. |
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