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soju. Ok, what is it?
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McGenghis



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me, the fact that the ajumma at my favorite samgyupsal place uses leftover soju to clean the tin tabletops of grease and kimchi stains says alot about what is inside the green bottle.

Experiment one: soju mixed with vinegar. Not as horrible as you might think.

Two: soju mixed with those tiny post-meal yogurt oneshots. Again, drinkable.

Experiment three: keeping a slice of raw cucumber in your soju glass and replacing it every three drinks.

Conclusion: you cannot detract from this drink. Anything and everything you add to it can only make it better. It�s like the zero of the alcohol pantheon.
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redaxe wrote:
Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
People who claim to have killer hangovers from soju are likely to have the exact same hangover, if not considerably worse, if they drink any other strong drink as quickly as soju tends to be drunk. Soju, being four-times stronger than most beers, half as strong as spirits and yet almost twice as strong as wine - and without tasting nice - is thereby one of those drinks that is used for binge drinking. Heavy drinkers are unlikely to notice any difference between being hungover from soju and being hungover from anything else. If they do find soju worse, that's likely to do with soju being consumed quickly, rather than from soju itself.


Yeah, alcohol is alcohol, it's all the same, the only real variables are how much of it are you putting in your bloodstream and how quickly. Being dehydrated or on an empty stomach will cause your BAC% to rise quicker. But most of the theories about which type of alcohol gives you what kind of hangover or whatever, are bull.


This.

Those who say "soju gave me the worst hangover I've ever had" are forgetting something: they drank the equivalent of 250ml of scotch, which might take even a heavy drinker all evening to finish, in less than an hour - all of which washed down with fatty pork, salt, kimchi and pitchers of beer.
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warren pease



Joined: 12 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
redaxe wrote:
Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
People who claim to have killer hangovers from soju are likely to have the exact same hangover, if not considerably worse, if they drink any other strong drink as quickly as soju tends to be drunk. Soju, being four-times stronger than most beers, half as strong as spirits and yet almost twice as strong as wine - and without tasting nice - is thereby one of those drinks that is used for binge drinking. Heavy drinkers are unlikely to notice any difference between being hungover from soju and being hungover from anything else. If they do find soju worse, that's likely to do with soju being consumed quickly, rather than from soju itself.


Yeah, alcohol is alcohol, it's all the same, the only real variables are how much of it are you putting in your bloodstream and how quickly. Being dehydrated or on an empty stomach will cause your BAC% to rise quicker. But most of the theories about which type of alcohol gives you what kind of hangover or whatever, are bull.


This.

Those who say "soju gave me the worst hangover I've ever had" are forgetting something: they drank the equivalent of 250ml of scotch, which might take even a heavy drinker all evening to finish, in less than an hour - all of which washed down with fatty pork, salt, kimchi and pitchers of beer.


Surely the quality of the alcohol must be a factor. For instance, I can drink way more Gray Goose vodka or Cabo Wabo tequila than Commodore or whatever crap tequila is always 3 shots for KRW10.

I'd imagine soju must be near the bottom rung of alcohol quality.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Well, it can't be so bad for you because ajeossi's have been pounding back the stuff in its current form for over 40 years now so any terrible effects would be out there......


Like the highest rate of stomach cancer in the world?
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jake_Kim wrote:
Technicalities of mass-produced Soju have all been mentioned so far, being diluted and added with stevioside, aspartam, etc.

There are less-promoted minor distilleries that produce Soju in its old-school definition, from rice and nothing else. The best example is 'Andong Soju' which is around 40% ABV, more expensive (28000 Won per 600ml bottle) than those evil green bottles, and harder to get. No nasty aftertaste.

Unless you must stick to some cheap booze, grab a bottle of true Soju and give it a go.


There's a cheaper version of Andong Soju called NeuKkim (느낌) that comes in a clear bottle with a black label ands goes for 3000-4000won in the grocery store. 30% alcohol. It's better than the green bottle swill, but not as good as the 40-45% stuff you're talking about.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGenghis wrote:
Experiment three: keeping a slice of raw cucumber in your soju glass and replacing it every three drinks.


Some places sell cucumber soju by the teapot. It's my favorite flavored soju (which isn't saying much.) The bland, bitter taste of the cucumber offsets the cloying sweetness of the soju nicely.
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eamo



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
eamo wrote:
Well, it can't be so bad for you because ajeossi's have been pounding back the stuff in its current form for over 40 years now so any terrible effects would be out there......


Like the highest rate of stomach cancer in the world?


You think that's from soju?.................I heard it's from the spicy food........although I doubt the Korean scientific community will ever admit that because of the pride taken in Korean food and the backlash to those that would criticize it.
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machoman



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

has anyone tried jeju soju? it's pretty awesome. smoother taste than regular soju.
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Wishmaster



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is kimchi that causes stomach cancer. Soju just causes Korean guys to look like old prunes by the time they are in their mid-30's. Kimchi is evil stuff.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Underwaterbob wrote:
eamo wrote:
Well, it can't be so bad for you because ajeossi's have been pounding back the stuff in its current form for over 40 years now so any terrible effects would be out there......


Like the highest rate of stomach cancer in the world?


You think that's from soju?.................I heard it's from the spicy food........although I doubt the Korean scientific community will ever admit that because of the pride taken in Korean food and the backlash to those that would criticize it.


I've also heard it was from the rice. Which is more believable than spices. There are cuisines spicier than Korean. Probably all three play a role.
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