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MalFSU1
Joined: 27 Jan 2009
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I actually have the opposite problem as the OP ...my coteacher will pretty much force me to go home if I feel the slightest bit ill. I'll try to convince her I'm okay and can make it through, but she will do anything short of throwing me into her car to get me to go home and "rest". I worry a bit what the principal and vice principal think about it, but I really don't want to fight my coteacher too hard because she's so intent on me going home. |
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le-paul

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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ive got a visual image akin to 'bugsey malone' with you getting in the car as the the tables in the classroom flip over and start serving soju...  |
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jonpurdy
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Location: Ulsan
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| MalFSU1 wrote: |
| I actually have the opposite problem as the OP ...my coteacher will pretty much force me to go home if I feel the slightest bit ill. I'll try to convince her I'm okay and can make it through, but she will do anything short of throwing me into her car to get me to go home and "rest". I worry a bit what the principal and vice principal think about it, but I really don't want to fight my coteacher too hard because she's so intent on me going home. |
One time, I was sent home because of a sunburn despite my wishes. Though I eventually caved since, hey, it's a free day off. It's all about the APPEARANCE of being ill, I suppose.
Public school, BTW. Though you probably could've guessed that. |
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's a strange system they have going here.
Do you know if there are on-call substitute services in Korea? They always make it seem like they'll be absolutely devastated if someone can't come in, although I remember reading something about substitutes for 20,000W/hour so they're probably just being cheap. Shocker. |
It's a strange system that companies have all over the wrold!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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rowdie3
Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Location: Itaewon, Seoul
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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0 days taken sick in 7 years here.
Missed one one hour class due to food poisoning.
I remember in my first year I had severely injured my ankle at Tae Kwon do. Called the director:
Me: I am hurt really bad. I can't walk. I am at the hospital.
Director: Well, you better hurry. Your class starts in one hour.
Me: Not sure if I am going to make it. I need an xray.
Director: See you by 7pm.
That's just the way it goes. Would refuse to go in if I was ever vomitting or unable to get out of bed. Otherwise, I tough it out. |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Rowdie,
One sick day in 8 years, but I had spent the night in the hospital hooked up to an IV -- couldn't make it to my 8 am class, as I hadn't been released from the hospital yet...wanted to one-up ya, but I can't...unless you get sick this year
Watch yer back ! |
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rowdie3
Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Location: Itaewon, Seoul
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Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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LOL! I have a challenger eh? I better start pumping the vitamin C before flu season hits.  |
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benjaminthunderbolt
Joined: 30 Jan 2010
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| lowpo wrote: |
| benjaminthunderbolt wrote: |
Yeah, it's a strange system they have going here.
Do you know if there are on-call substitute services in Korea? They always make it seem like they'll be absolutely devastated if someone can't come in, although I remember reading something about substitutes for 20,000W/hour so they're probably just being cheap. Shocker. |
It's a strange system that companies have all over the wrold!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Not really. Over 127 countries provide one week or more annually, and 98 guarantee over a month. There's a reason Koreans work more than anyone else in the developed world- they have a strange system here. |
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thegadfly

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Benjamin,
If there were substitutes available for 20,000 won an hour, there would be no full time teachers -- schools would simply use the substitute service, as it is cheaper than airfare, apartment, health insurance, pension, and salary, even if the person is working 120 classes a month.
There is NOT a widespread subsitute teaching service -- I have heard it bemoaned many times, but other than other teachers at the school picking up the slack, I have neither experienced nor even heard of it happening. Sure, I have covered other people's classes, and have even seen folks from one school ask for help from other foreigners in the community...but getting someone you know to cover for you is a far cry from a systematic method of finding a short-term replacement, or even a sub for a day.... |
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hubbahubba
Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| Sick, is a not a concept they embrace in Korea. Accept it, or move on. |
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sigmundsmith
Joined: 22 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:16 am Post subject: |
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you guys are lucky. try working for a university. we get no sick days at all. not in the contract.
we have to make up the classes that we were sick.
so there. beat the 6 hours - no sick days  |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I work for a company that offers no sick days, but if you need one, take it, you are just going to see your pay docked. That's pretty good motivation.
The other motivator is this: do it too often and good luck getting re-signed.
Me: three and half years in Korea and zero sicks days. My one bout of flu happened to me over Christmas holidays.
Record: my friend back in Canada (where sick days are taken like candy). 13 years of teaching. His entire career. Its his intention to be able to say, "I've gone more whole career without ever missing a day."
As an aside, he asked his principal for an extra couple hundred dollars to pay for some activities for his grade 6 class. No, sorry, can't do it, don't have the money. He looked him deadpan and said, "Take it from the money you have saved for not having had to pay for a substitute teacher over the past X years (at that school)." He got the money. |
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NYC_Gal

Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| sigmundsmith wrote: |
you guys are lucky. try working for a university. we get no sick days at all. not in the contract.
we have to make up the classes that we were sick.
so there. beat the 6 hours - no sick days  |
You probably work a maximum of 15 hours per week. 20 with office hours. It's not terribly inconvenient to make up a 3-hour class. You've also likely got 4-5 months of vacation. You still take the sick days, you just have to make up some class time when you're back. It's still a sweet deal. |
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