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kp_vtekniks
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Are you sending your docs in?
If you can I would take them in person, they can let you know if you have anything missing there.
Hopefully you will get a nice person like I did� She took all of my paperwork, explained what was wrong and let me email the corrected form, instead of taking everything with me and having to bring it all back... |
Funny story, first time I went in they said that I needed my passport, my parents Korean passport, hojuk, and my parents green card.
So this morning, I called the consulate to confirm that I have everything and they are now saying that I am ineligible. I guess it won't hurt to take everything in and see what happens. Maybe someone will pull some strings for me. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:17 am Post subject: Re: F4 visa issue (already searched) |
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Hello out there! Just a quick question for you guys. I searched but could not find any definite information.
I spoke with the korean consulate here in seattle today. They notified me that I was not eligible for the F4 visa due to the fact that my parents are still korean citizens.
Here is some background info on my situation.
1. I am a korean american_ born and raised in the united states.
2. I have obtained a hojuk and am NOT listed
therefore, I have never been a korean citizen. I was told for this reason that I do not have to renounce my korean citizenship because there is nothing for me to renounce.
3. My parents have been living in the states for the past 30+ years. They are not american citizens but are permanent residents with alien cards.
The consulate told me that the only way I can get an f4 is if my parents obtain US citizenship and renounce their korean citizenship.
is this info from the consulate correct? They did not seem too confident in their answer to me.
any help would be greatly appreciated. |
Since your parents are still Korean citizens then YOU are a Korean citizen (unregistered) by derived citizenship (jus sanguinis ("right of blood")) at birth (you hold your parents citizenship) in addition to your US citizenship (jus soli ("right of soil")) by place of birth.
You should be able to claim a Korean passport if your parents file the paperwork. BE CAREFUL that you don't get drafted (it can be a nuisance to get out of).
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kp_vtekniks
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:32 am Post subject: Re: F4 visa issue (already searched) |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| kp_vtekniks wrote: |
Hello out there! Just a quick question for you guys. I searched but could not find any definite information.
I spoke with the korean consulate here in seattle today. They notified me that I was not eligible for the F4 visa due to the fact that my parents are still korean citizens.
Here is some background info on my situation.
1. I am a korean american_ born and raised in the united states.
2. I have obtained a hojuk and am NOT listed
therefore, I have never been a korean citizen. I was told for this reason that I do not have to renounce my korean citizenship because there is nothing for me to renounce.
3. My parents have been living in the states for the past 30+ years. They are not american citizens but are permanent residents with alien cards.
The consulate told me that the only way I can get an f4 is if my parents obtain US citizenship and renounce their korean citizenship.
is this info from the consulate correct? They did not seem too confident in their answer to me.
any help would be greatly appreciated. |
Since your parents are still Korean citizens then YOU are a Korean citizen (unregistered) by derived citizenship (jus sanguinis ("right of blood")) at birth (you hold your parents citizenship) in addition to your US citizenship (jus soli ("right of soil")) by place of birth.
You should be able to claim a Korean passport if your parents file the paperwork. BE CAREFUL that you don't get drafted (it can be a nuisance to get out of).
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I wonder if my parents became citizens and renounce the korean citizenship, if that would change things? Or is it too late for the fact that they were Korean citizens at the time of my birth? |
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cert43
Joined: 17 Jun 2010
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:46 am Post subject: |
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710? Are you really a Kyopo from Atlanta?
If so, I am thinking we probably meet in person somewhere around one of the Korean towns in or the H-marts.
Anyways,j ust sent you a pm with my name and info. If you don't me;then just disregard it, please. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Just went to get my F-4 visa at the New York Consulate and presented the following:
1) Passport
2) Naturalization Certificate and two copies
3) Je jeok deung bon (Family Tree Register Certificate)
4) Name Change Certificate that came with my naturalization certificate.
5) 1 application form and 1 passport photo.
6) One pre-paid Express mail envelope, so I wouldn't have to go back to Manhattan.
I also had to formally renounce my former Korean citizenship (Sang sil), but this was just a small piece of paper that I had to fill out.
That's about it.
The first question she asked me was where I was born and I told her, "Korea." Then she said, "Oh good, because if you were born here, we aren't able to process it here."
It just seems like dual citizens by birth are getting f'ed in terms of getting an F4 visa. Seems pretty tough anyway. |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| 710 wrote: |
| I�m 36, I came to the US when I was 3. I was naturalized. My parents are Korean citizens. I got my F-4 a week ago. |
Hey quick question, I just filed my paperwork for the visa, should get it in a few days via mail. Did they mention to you that the renunciation takes a while so be aware that they might give you some crap at the airport regarding military service? |
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710
Joined: 05 May 2010
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| They didn�t mention it to me, I�m too old to serve, even if I wanted to... |
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toph
Joined: 10 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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has anybody tried getting the f4 in korea?
as in...flying over to korea first, and then handling the visa process there? |
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710
Joined: 05 May 2010
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| When I first started this process, someone from the consulate actually suggested that I apply for a F-4. I contacted the recruiter I was working with at the time and asked their opinion. They seemed to think that it would be better for me to go through the E-2 process and then switch to a F-4 in Korea� Not sure what the logic was, but I presume by the implication of their advice that it is easy to get it in Korea� If you don�t have the documents, it will definitely be easier to obtain them there... |
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kp_vtekniks
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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rpark411
Joined: 11 Oct 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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kp, i think all that is ruled out because of the new law. A couple of people already mentioned it already but there's a new law out that passed in May 2010.
I've been trying to find out exactly what this law states but have come up empty. I contacted the Embassy a couple of times and they told me that if you were born in the U.S., you are ineligible for the f4.
I doubt it's that simple.
If anyone has info on the law and exactly what it states that would be very helpful.
If you know someone that was born in the States and was able to obtain a f4 visa in the past month please share. |
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jack_b57
Joined: 02 Sep 2010
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:41 am Post subject: |
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kp, i think all that is ruled out because of the new law. A couple of people already mentioned it already but there's a new law out that passed in May 2010.
I've been trying to find out exactly what this law states but have come up empty. I contacted the Embassy a couple of times and they told me that if you were born in the U.S., you are ineligible for the f4.
I doubt it's that simple.
If anyone has info on the law and exactly what it states that would be very helpful.
If you know someone that was born in the States and was able to obtain a f4 visa in the past month please share. |
Ditto for me on this - if anyone has any info on what new news came out regarding F4s, let me know. I heard something changed with the F4 rules, but I have no idea what. |
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DeLaRed
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:31 am Post subject: |
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If you know someone that was born in the States and was able to obtain a f4 visa in the past month please share. |
I just met a gyopo guy who applied for his F4 last week. Said all the paperwork was done and confirmed and is due to get it in the next few days. The F4 was applied for in Korea though.... |
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tiddles
Joined: 25 Aug 2009
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| I was born in the states and got my F-4 no problem. I got it in Korea though. The people at immigration were pretty funny about it - they told me I was missing a few documents, but they'll give me the visa this time as long as I bring the missing stuff when I renew it in 3 years. |
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kalliope
Joined: 20 Mar 2010
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:31 am Post subject: |
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I was born in the states and I applied for and received my F-4 visa with no problems back in July. I applied for it directly at the consulate and they never mentioned anything about the law that was passed in May.
The whole F-4 visa process is a mess. Every single person you talk to will tell you something different. |
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