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FYI - FBI Background Check - Get it done ASAP.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twospoonsmv wrote:
interestedinhanguk wrote:
twospoonsmv wrote:
Please note


I call the biometer headquarters for the FBI t his morning. The representative says they do not notarized or apostille. When requesting your background check please write that you want the background check to be authenticated. Then send the background check to your STATE SOS and they will apostille it for you.


No. You send it to the US Department of State.
http://www.state.gov/m/a/auth/

This isn't hard, folks. The information's here.


Will with all the confusion I called them myself and that is what i was told to do. Local and state cannot notarized fed documents. When you ask for authentication, which is the official fbi stamp/seal, send the doc to your state SOS they will apostille it for you.


http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/background-checks/faqs
From the FBI website:
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9. Does the FBI provide apostilles*?

(*An apostille is a certification that a document that has been �legalized� or �authenticated� by the issuing agency through a process in which various seals are placed on the document.)

The CJIS Division will authenticate U.S. Department of Justice Order 556-73 fingerprint search results for international requests by placing the FBI seal and the signature of a division official on the results if requested at the time of submission. Documents prepared in this way may then be sent to the U.S. Department of State by the requester to obtain an apostille if necessary. This procedure became effective on January 25, 2010 and will apply only to documents finalized after that date. Requests to authenticate previously processed results will not be accepted. This procedure replaces the letter formerly provided by the CJIS Division that indicated the service was not provided. The apostille service is not provided to individuals requesting search results for Canadian immigration, as it is not required for this purpose.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Confused Reply with quote

AdingBobo13 wrote:
I am a bit confused now.

I've been reading on this thread that all you need to do with your FBI Background Check is submit a memo along with the application asking for it to be authenticated.

After reading this website (http://www.state.gov/m/a/auth/), it's saying to submit an additional $8.00? Is this correct or is this for OTHER documents not pertaining to the Background Check?


There's 2 things you need to do.
When you request your FBI check, attach the memo asking for it to be authenticated with a seal and signature (for apostille).

Once you receive your background check, you must get an apostille. Send the background check to the Department of State ($8 ), asking for apostille. Then it is ready for Korea.

If you do not get the signature/seal on your background check, you cannot get it apostilled by the Dept of State. If you do not get it apostilled by the Dept of State, you cannot submit it to Korea.

So yes, you will need to do 2 mailings for your check to be completed.
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SandyG21



Joined: 26 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understood this to mean if you were in Korea or another country outside the USA you could just have the FBI send it directly for authentication.

If you are in the USA the FBI check is sent to your address and then we have to resend it for authentication.

Again more time and money!

And in this day and age not only should it be faster - but why not just set up a way for some of this to done by computer or fax machine?

If they allowed scanned fingerprinting - it would be faster - if some documents could be scanned or faxed - faster - if the consulates or immigration would allow the government to contact them directly it would be faster.

Really there are more ways for the documents to be faked by hand (and or messed up and lost) then if they would just allow computerizing directly government to government or faxing government to government.

Also why not have passports somehow directly linked to fingerprinting as well?
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MA_TESOL



Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: where is it Reply with quote

The FBI received my papers 21 August according to EMS tracking and I haven't even had my credit card debited yet. Is it that slow now, or do I have a problem
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PCRamplified



Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: PA, USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just that slow. I sent mine in end of June-beginning of July. Card expired at the end of August. They didn't get around to trying to charge it till September. I had to re-submit the credit card forms which probably made it take a couple of weeks extra.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SandyG21 wrote:
I understood this to mean if you were in Korea or another country outside the USA you could just have the FBI send it directly for authentication.

If you are in the USA the FBI check is sent to your address and then we have to resend it for authentication.

Again more time and money!

And in this day and age not only should it be faster - but why not just set up a way for some of this to done by computer or fax machine?

If they allowed scanned fingerprinting - it would be faster - if some documents could be scanned or faxed - faster - if the consulates or immigration would allow the government to contact them directly it would be faster.

Really there are more ways for the documents to be faked by hand (and or messed up and lost) then if they would just allow computerizing directly government to government or faxing government to government.

Also why not have passports somehow directly linked to fingerprinting as well?


Can you seriously not handle this? Sorry, but you are having a ridiculous amount of trouble. Are you sure you can handle living in Korea?
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SandyG21



Joined: 26 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was responding to a previous poster.

Personal attacks are unneccessary.

I was just making everyone aware that the directions are being interpreted differently by different people.
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millyfrend



Joined: 29 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FBI Background Check is slow because everyone is sending in their fingerprints, check out the forum, everyone is waiting for it. They don't have enough people to process the background checks? It should be computerized. My friend got her FBI Background Check, but she only had 1 week to get an apostille before submitting it to immigration. She had to hire an agency to expedite the process because it would have taken like 3 weeks, she got the Department of State apostille in 5 days through Apostille Pros, just in time to get it to Korean Immigration.

There's gotta be a way to talk to congress about expediting FBI Background Check, 7-12 weeks to get a FBI Background Check is really unacceptable. She called the FBI agency, South Korea teachers aren't the only ones getting the check. It's finance workers, teachers in Spain, all over the U.S. people are asking for FBI Background checks for employment purposes that's why it's taking so slow.

They should just do it by social security or something.


PCRamplified wrote:
It's just that slow. I sent mine in end of June-beginning of July. Card expired at the end of August. They didn't get around to trying to charge it till September. I had to re-submit the credit card forms which probably made it take a couple of weeks extra.
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millyfrend



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Confused Reply with quote

Is this a new law or something in Korea? Cause someone I know said they got the FBI Background Check notarized and apostille in the state and it was accepted by Korean Immigration. That was 2 months ago. He said, to do that because it's much faster than getting it from Department of State.

But did Korean Immigration change the rule recently? Cause 2 month ago, fbi background check was accepted as notarized and apostille in the state.






interestedinhanguk wrote:
AdingBobo13 wrote:
I am a bit confused now.

I've been reading on this thread that all you need to do with your FBI Background Check is submit a memo along with the application asking for it to be authenticated.

After reading this website (http://www.state.gov/m/a/auth/), it's saying to submit an additional $8.00? Is this correct or is this for OTHER documents not pertaining to the Background Check?


There's 2 things you need to do.
When you request your FBI check, attach the memo asking for it to be authenticated with a seal and signature (for apostille).

Once you receive your background check, you must get an apostille. Send the background check to the Department of State ($8 ), asking for apostille. Then it is ready for Korea.

If you do not get the signature/seal on your background check, you cannot get it apostilled by the Dept of State. If you do not get it apostilled by the Dept of State, you cannot submit it to Korea.

So yes, you will need to do 2 mailings for your check to be completed.
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SteveJobs



Joined: 12 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: where is it Reply with quote

MA_TESOL wrote:
The FBI received my papers 21 August according to EMS tracking and I haven't even had my credit card debited yet. Is it that slow now, or do I have a problem


Wow that really sucks. I mailed my prints out to the FBI on September 1st. My card was charged last week, October 19.

I did write a not requesting speedy processing...not sure if that effected it. And I still don't know how much longer it will take to actually get it back in the mail.

Also I did not ask about any sort of authentication....I wonder are they doing this automatically? On the card I did note that this was for working overseas...maybe they'll do it anyway?

If not I guess I'll have my university notarize it then send it out to my STATE for an apostile.

Now if I can only get recruiters to respond to my applications, resumes, and emails!!!!
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SteveJobs



Joined: 12 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SandyG21 wrote:
I understood this to mean if you were in Korea or another country outside the USA you could just have the FBI send it directly for authentication.

If you are in the USA the FBI check is sent to your address and then we have to resend it for authentication.

Again more time and money!

And in this day and age not only should it be faster - but why not just set up a way for some of this to done by computer or fax machine?

If they allowed scanned fingerprinting - it would be faster - if some documents could be scanned or faxed - faster - if the consulates or immigration would allow the government to contact them directly it would be faster.

Really there are more ways for the documents to be faked by hand (and or messed up and lost) then if they would just allow computerizing directly government to government or faxing government to government.

Also why not have passports somehow directly linked to fingerprinting as well?



Passports should not be linked to fingerprinting. keep in mind that no one in this country, except maybe military persons etc, are fingerprinted unless you are arrested; a criminal.

When u get arrested you get fingerprinted so thats why u send in your prints so they can check them against all 50 States databases. I agree that sending in your prints is the only way for this to be secure and I think everyone should have to be printed by a government official. I had my prints done at the local sheriffs office. There was no ink, it was digital.

I do think they need more people running these checks or make it streamlined with the 50 states somehow. I mean, I guess 2 months isn't terrible for a federal bureaucracy but anything longer than that really is pushing it.
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SandyG21



Joined: 26 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to do the digital fingerprinting but was informed that digital fingerprinting (which is faster) was unacceptable for going overseas for visa purposes. Only the old fashioned ink stamp prints were acceptable.

Were your digital fingerprints accepted for the Korea work visa?
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austinmc86



Joined: 23 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it seems the changes have been postponed for a year (if you're renewing).
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SteveJobs



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SandyG21 wrote:
I wanted to do the digital fingerprinting but was informed that digital fingerprinting (which is faster) was unacceptable for going overseas for visa purposes. Only the old fashioned ink stamp prints were acceptable.

Were your digital fingerprints accepted for the Korea work visa?


you need another set of fingerprints for the Korean work visa? I would think that if they are acceptable for the FBI they would be ok for Korea too...
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SandyG21



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my state digital/scanned fingerprinting is done by one agency that travels around the state - they send the documents to a code number directly (school, agency, hospital) - not to the person being fingerprinted.

Therefore in order to get an FBI scan - it requires going to the police - getting an old fashioned ink stamp card - mail it with documents and wait an average of 12 weeks.

I have no idea if other states do the digital/scanned another way.

I was told the scanned/digital is not an FBI CBC - but is done by a privately owned company.

That is what is available in my geographic area.


Side note is CBCs checks are beginning to be a for profit business - my local school system is now using HIRE Right a for profit company rather than the less expensive and quicker state CBC.

Hire Right is definitely for profit - they tried to charge me extra - saying I lived in multiple counties - until I protested the charges on my charge card - I found out they have been doing this to al ot of local teachers in my area.
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