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morrisonhotel
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| debb199 wrote: |
The E2 changes that affect us Brits regarding having a copy of your degree certificate are in place now. The changes which are being postponed are presumably those affecting the FBI check.
As far as I can tell, the options for those already in Korea are:
1) get your degree certificate verified by the British Council/KCUE in Korea (although I think someone has said that KCUE is backed up at the mo).
2) send your degree certificate to someone in the UK who is happy to get it notarised and apostilled for you.
3) go through an intermediary service such as www.apostille-uk.net who will sort out the necessary notarisation/apostille for you for an admin fee. |
Incorrect. I've just had all my documentation handed in to immigration yesterday. I'm from the UK and nothing new was asked for renewing - no degree copy or anything. Immigration at least seem to have postponed the new visa changes. It's probably best to be on the safe side and get your degree apostilled anyway. |
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debb199
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| morrisonhotel wrote: |
| Incorrect. I've just had all my documentation handed in to immigration yesterday. I'm from the UK and nothing new was asked for renewing - no degree copy or anything. Immigration at least seem to have postponed the new visa changes. It's probably best to be on the safe side and get your degree apostilled anyway. |
Ah ok! Well, for those in the UK applying for their first E2 visa, the new regs definitely apply as I've just been through the process. |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:33 am Post subject: |
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It seems as if the new rules have been temporarily postponed for those currently in Korea, giving them an opportunity to renew or extend their E2 before having to gather all their documents together. However, from what others have posted on this borad, it seems as if those going to Korea, are expected to more or less follow the new visa rules i.e. notarised/apostilled original CRC, and notarised/apostilled copy of degree certificate.
Either that or immigration are just making up the rules as they go along... 
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| plato's republic wrote: |
| follow the new visa rules i.e. notarised/apostilled copy of CRC, |
No: as far as I'm aware, the original CRC must be notarised...not a copy. |
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plato's republic
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, that's right. My mistake, sorry. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| elliot79 wrote: |
| didn't want to send my origional degree to korea and Milton Keynes will not apostille a copy |
Yes they will. They've just apostilled a copy of mine.
| deb199 wrote: |
| ) get your degree certificate verified by the British Council/KCUE in Korea |
Is this verification by a public notary? because if not then it doesn't count as a notarisation.
| skipperoo wrote: |
| quite possibly as it takes literally about 2 minutes of their time, that's the price I was quoted by 4 or 5 of the solicitors in my area |
Solicitors cannot notarise, only certify. Unless they also happen to be a notary public of course.
I suppose what I'm getting at is this: is a CRC that is certified by a solictor then apostilled, acceptable to Korean immi?
- or does it need to be notarised by a public notary then apostilled? |
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plato's republic
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Out of interest, why would Kimmi care if it's been notarised by a public notary or a solicitor? |
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debb199
Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| junior wrote: |
| deb199 wrote: |
| ) get your degree certificate verified by the British Council/KCUE in Korea |
Is this verification by a public notary? because if not then it doesn't count as a notarisation. |
The KCUE can verify your degree, so you would not need to have it notarised and apostilled in the UK.
Further info on the KCUE website: http://english.kcue.or.kr/sub_new_03_1.html |
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debb199
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| plato's republic wrote: |
| Out of interest, why would Kimmi care if it's been notarised by a public notary or a solicitor? |
Not sure - I wonder if they would know the difference as FCO legalise educational documents signed by a notary public or a solicitor!
From the FCO website:
All educational documents (photocopies or originals) MUST be signed in the UK by a notary public or solicitor before you submit to us for legalisation |
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morrisonhotel
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
Is this verification by a public notary? because if not then it doesn't count as a notarisation. |
Yes, the guy in charge at the British Council in Seoul is technically a public notary and it should be accepted as such. |
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valkerie
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| debb199 wrote: |
| plato's republic wrote: |
| Out of interest, why would Kimmi care if it's been notarised by a public notary or a solicitor? |
Not sure - I wonder if they would know the difference as FCO legalise educational documents signed by a notary public or a solicitor!
From the FCO website:
All educational documents (photocopies or originals) MUST be signed in the UK by a notary public or solicitor before you submit to us for legalisation |
I've done it three times with a solicitor's stamp. I tried a notary once but they charge a fortune. What they do is much more official.
Oh and British CRC's (not the Disclosure Scotland type) with the blue line at the bottom don't need to be notarised first. That is what the FCO tell me each time but I still do it as I would rather spend a bit more than have Kimmi freak out.
I am now looking for options to go through the degree apostille palaver for a 2 week extension. Madness.
Funny enough I have verified copis from the BC in Japan. Pity I can't use one of those. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| plato's republic wrote: |
| Out of interest, why would Kimmi care if it's been notarised by a public notary or a solicitor? |
Oh I was just wondering I guess. They've gotten fairly unpredictable these days...
Most websites on the subject are saying notarization by either public notary or solicitor/lawyer is ok. So I guess its alright...
| Valkerie wrote: |
| I've done it three times with a solicitor's stamp. I tried a notary once but they charge a fortune. What they do is much more official. |
What I don't get is why kimmi will not accept a notarized and apostilled photocopy of the CRC?
I'd prefer to send that, because of the tendency for original docs to be lost in Korea. |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| Do notarised/apostilled degree copies get returned once immigration have finished with them, or are they kept/thrown in the bin by Kimmi? |
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valkerie
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| plato's republic wrote: |
| Do notarised/apostilled degree copies get returned once immigration have finished with them, or are they kept/thrown in the bin by Kimmi? |
I imagine they will throw them in a bin where anyone can find them and steal your identity. It scares me if I think about it! |
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semphoon
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Just to be clear for those of us in Korea and havent had our degree apostiled yet, we have to
1st - send the original degree home to a public notary, where he will make a photocopy of it and state that it is a true copy of the genuine document.
2nd - send the photocopy (and the orginal?) to the FCO, where they will put a stamp on the photocopy to state that they have checked that it is a true copy of the genuine document.
Is .... this .... right?
Any advice? |
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