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[Summer Wine]

[caniff]

If you must wage war, it's better that you do it in a way that doesn't harm the planet.

[Summer Wine]

Yes, it is.

Also many of tech developments occured first in the military and then moved over to the civilian industry.

Here's hoping the same will occur. If the US military ends up becoming non reliant on oil based products, then maybe our nations will end up doing the same.

Also from a military point it makes great sense, self contained, bases.

[caniff]

[mc_jc]

The article is mere windowdressing- it would take years to outfit every vehicle and every piece of machinery with the specifications for alternative fuels.

Fuel is now being airlifted from Tadjikistan and Kyrgyzstan on an hourly basis with fuel provided by pipeline from Azerbaijan to these countries.

The attacks on the fuel supplies has only forced IFOR to bring it in elsewhere.

[brickabrack]

^^^
what I'm saying.

Hate to be a debbie downer, but it is only lip service to an extent.
Nations will depend on the black gold until it runs dry and the
oil gods that own that stuff will have had there foot
in alt energies long enough to continue raping and pillaging the
planet.

[Hotwire]

Sorry but you have to love the Irony.

Hey we just waged an illegal war over control of oil supply.

Now - Don't go wasting oil to wage war!

[The Happy Warrior]

[mc_jc]

The dependence on foreign oil supplies is one of the downsides of the conflict right now, since many of the coutries where we request oil and fuel refuse to fill those requests because of the unpopularity of the wars right now.
I had a meeting with both Russian and Chinese oil suppliers recently to ask if they would like to submit paperwork for a contract to supply NATO and IFOR with fuel. Both of these suppliers refused because they didn't want to get involved (Pres. Medvedev of Russia had told the regional supplier in Central Asia not to deal with the coalition forces)...I wished YUKOS was still in business.
Luckily, the Azeris are more than willing to help, not to mention the Kazakhs.

The Khyber Pass border pass onto A1 just opened back up after C-JCoS, Adm. Mullins, warned that if any more trucks get torched, drone strikes would be targeting the areas within metropolitan Peshawar and Lahore and that the US would withdraw its transportation contract from the Pakistani companies- I think the Pakistanis were more threatened by the drone strikes on their cities than the loss of contract money.

[brickabrack]

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175310/tomgram%3A_nick_turse%2C_base_desires_in_afghanistan/


Plans by the Pentagon to spend billions of dollars upgrading and expanding the network of forward operating bases in Afghanistan suggest that the military's long-term strategy differs greatly from the July 2011 drawdown promised by President Barack Obama. From runways and helicopter parking to PXs and dog kennels, these bases are becoming too permanent for an imminent withdrawal.

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Plans from the beginning (decades of planning) have been to be in Af for a long time. Just like Iraq. There is no plans for full withdrawal anytime soon. Ask our DoD ESL counterpart stationed there. MC, how long is your tour?

Sorry if you were one of the 'believers' in said change. This Obama guy is probably even worse off for the country than W. "We've only just begun....."

Above plans will consume a lot of oil. Your govt thinks you're stupid.

[caniff]