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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| redaxe wrote: |
| ippy wrote: |
er what it likely means is that youre in contact with their kids on a daily basis and you could potentially transmit the disease due to this proximity. Obviously its not the common cold or anything, but the potential is there. Honestly, mind in the gutter some people...  |
Perhaps it's transmittable via dong-chim? |
Good one! |
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Chet Wautlands
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| If, when I was a kid, a teacher at our school was found to have HIV, there would definitely have been concern amongst the parents. Valid or not, this isn't simply a Korean thing. |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, this isn't when you were a kid. Times, they've a-changed. And there's a lot more knowledge now about how the disease is transmitted. It is not transmitted by being in the same room as the little preciouses. |
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akcrono
Joined: 11 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| ippy wrote: |
| er what it likely means is that youre in contact with their kids on a daily basis and you could potentially transmit the disease due to this proximity. Obviously its not the common cold or anything, but the potential is there. Honestly, mind in the gutter some people... |
Zero reported cases of transmission when bodily fluids weren't involved. It's not "mind in the gutter", its Korean absurdity. |
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ippy
Joined: 25 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| ippy wrote: |
| er what it likely means is that youre in contact with their kids on a daily basis and you could potentially transmit the disease due to this proximity. Obviously its not the common cold or anything, but the potential is there. Honestly, mind in the gutter some people... |
Potential of transmitting HIV by being in the same room with their kids? Wow. The mind boggles. |
boggle away because youre reading your own interpretation into what i wrote. I was suggesting only that a parent may construe that the chances of a teacher ending up in some kind of accidental situation greatly increases the chances of their kids contracting hiv than if the teacher were not hiv. And the fact that said teacher is in proximity to the students on a daily basis increases those chances.
Obviously, its not entirely rational, i made no claim on that. Merely suggested that the mosty likely interpretation of intimacy is in fact "daily contact" rather than sexual transmission. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| akcrono wrote: |
| ippy wrote: |
| er what it likely means is that youre in contact with their kids on a daily basis and you could potentially transmit the disease due to this proximity. Obviously its not the common cold or anything, but the potential is there. Honestly, mind in the gutter some people... |
Zero reported cases of transmission when bodily fluids weren't involved. It's not "mind in the gutter", its Korean absurdity. |
Blood transfusions don't involve human contact. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| Little kids have a tendency to scratch things and draw blood. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| I must've missed that session of the orientation, you know the one, the session where we're transfusing blood from us to the students. I knew I shouldn't've trusted public transportation that day. I was a lousy five minutes late and see what I missed! |
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DaffyD73
Joined: 28 Nov 2007
Location: Planet Earth on the left
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| Chet Wautlands wrote: |
| If, when I was a kid, a teacher at our school was found to have HIV, there would definitely have been concern amongst the parents. Valid or not, this isn't simply a Korean thing. |
The Korean thing about it is that they are only testing the Foreign teachers - unless of course the Korean teachers are being tested BUT not told they are being tested - and if you are public school -tested every year.
Hey i have no problem with the tests if it was not just testing a subset of the community - Sorry let me rephrase - I would not have a valid reason to complain if it was an "education industry" test rather than the "Native ESL Teachers" test. If it was across the industry (test for HIV and Drugs) both Native and Korean doing the test every year then it would be just part of the job.
At present it is spoken of as just part of the job - but the fact remains because they focus only on us it is a discrimination and a violation of our human dignity to be held apart as high risk given our nationality.
The newspaper stated that "Parents ..... concerned given the initmate nature of teaching etc... " but neglect the obvious fact that Native teachers are only a small fraction of the teachers in Korea - what about all the other teachers! It is stupidity to the extreme to only test say 5% of a profession and then assure parents that the total profession is safe.
All that i know is that when i return home i will go out of my way not to purchase or support korean industry - just my little revolution - hey yeah may not make a ####load of difference but will make me feel better about my years of being portrayed as the lowest of the low -( ie child molestors are at the bottom of status when in Jail - other criminals judge themselves as being higher status) |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Everyone knows that E6 "Entertainer" visas are often used for human trafficking to bring foreign prostitutes into Korea. So now they're not going to make the hookers take HIV tests anymore, but they're still going to make the English teachers take them? Brilliant.
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We�ve decided to ease the rules as HIV is not transmitted through air or water but through human contact most of the time,� ministry official Jeong Eun-gyeong said, explaining the reason behind the revision.
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Is this news to the Korean government? |
You said it all. They want to check foreign teachers for HIV but not foreign prostitutes. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| Little kids have a tendency to scratch things and draw blood. |
And then mainlining the drawn blood, but only if it happened to be from a foreigner who's not Korean ethnicity or married to a Korean citizen.
Are you even listening to yourself? |
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Kimchifart
Joined: 15 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| "We�ve decided to ease the rules as HIV is not transmitted through air or water but through human contact most of the time,� ministry official Jeong Eun-gyeon |
Most of the time? He must mean, when the fan isn't turned on. |
E-2s + fan death = fan AIDS! Hide your kids, hide your wife!  |
http://www.tastefullyoffensive.com/2010/10/antoine-dogson.html |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| I must've missed that session of the orientation, you know the one, the session where we're transfusing blood from us to the students. I knew I shouldn't've trusted public transportation that day. I was a lousy five minutes late and see what I missed! |
Foreigners are allowed to donate blood, no? |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| Might be an idea to run a test on little Min-Ju's father after he returns from his 'golfing trip' in the Phillipines. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| akcrono wrote: |
| ippy wrote: |
| er what it likely means is that youre in contact with their kids on a daily basis and you could potentially transmit the disease due to this proximity. Obviously its not the common cold or anything, but the potential is there. Honestly, mind in the gutter some people... |
Zero reported cases of transmission when bodily fluids weren't involved. It's not "mind in the gutter", its Korean absurdity. |
Blood transfusions don't involve human contact. |
Go back and read what you just responded to. |
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