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aske



Joined: 25 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
I agree the problems that you'll face over here are going to be so different than what you're used to: based mainly on the two little facts: 1. This culture is not the same and 2. basic communication is sometimes hard to pull off.


I don't think this is a cultural issue at all, especially when I'm judged based on perceptions of my own culture and status. I'm not Korean and as such wouldn't expect to be treated as if I were Korean.

I don't have an issue with cultural differences insofar as they actually are mere cultural differences: taking my shoes off at the door, bowing for greetings, etc. Just as I don't think 'cultural differences' should be a reason to ignore potential problems in a contract (after all, it's just 'culture' that contracts don't have the same social force as they do in the west), I also don't think 'cultural differences' is any kind of argument for why a student should have my phone number. There is no good reason for it.


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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aske wrote:
tanklor1 wrote:
I agree the problems that you'll face over here are going to be so different than what you're used to: based mainly on the two little facts: 1. This culture is not the same and 2. basic communication is sometimes hard to pull off.


I don't think this is a cultural issue at all, especially when I'm judged based on perceptions of my own culture and status. I don't have an issue with cultural differences insofar as they actually are mere cultural differences: taking my shoes off at the door, bowing for greetings, etc. Just as I don't think 'cultural differences' should be a reason to ignore potential problems in a contract (after all, it's just 'culture' that contracts don't have the same social force as they do in the west), I also don't think 'cultural differences' is any kind of argument for why a student should have my phone number. There is no good reason for it.


Then just block the number. It really, really doesn't matter. And as everyone is telling you, it's not an issue contractually. No one is going to freak out about this except for you.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aske wrote:
tanklor1 wrote:
I agree the problems that you'll face over here are going to be so different than what you're used to: based mainly on the two little facts: 1. This culture is not the same and 2. basic communication is sometimes hard to pull off.


I don't think this is a cultural issue at all, especially when I'm judged based on perceptions of my own culture and status. I'm not Korean and don't expect to be treated as if I were Korean.

I don't have an issue with cultural differences insofar as they actually are mere cultural differences: taking my shoes off at the door, bowing for greetings, etc. Just as I don't think 'cultural differences' should be a reason to ignore potential problems in a contract (after all, it's just 'culture' that contracts don't have the same social force as they do in the west), I also don't think 'cultural differences' is any kind of argument for why a student should have my phone number. There is no good reason for it.


I think your best course of action is to simply pack your bags and go home.

End of problem.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always exchange phone numbers with my keener students. Part of our job is to develope students speaking ability. I still get phone calls from my Ex-students who are now in Foreign language High schools.

I can't see any dangers in exchanging numbers most of the students who are trouble makers won't exchange numbers because they can't use the target language.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach girls high school. My phone number is blatantly listed, with the phone numbers of ALL teachers in the offices around the school.

I'd say about 80% of the girls in my high school have my phone number.

Number of text messages I've gotten in the last year: 3.
Number of phone calls: 0.

The other male teachers at my school get calls from their students all the time. The students call the teachers whenever they have a problem at school OR AT HOME.

I actually want my students to ave my number so they have someone to call if they are in trouble. Domestic violence is a real thing, and I've seen some students who got thrown around by their parents for bringing home a B+ instead of an A.
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Morticae



Joined: 06 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach all boys middle school. Everybody seems to have my phone number. I get a few texts a week, maybe a phone call or two. All very harmless:

"Hi teacher! I saw you on the street!"
"hI!! ^^"

*Student Calls*
"Hello?"
"Hi teacher."
"Hi. How are you?"
"I'm fine. What are you doing?"
"Watching TV, what are you doing?"
"Nothing. OK, BYE!"
"Bye, see you tomorrow."

As for a reason? Well, it's my 'job' to teach English... specifically, as all E2 holders, conversational English. I'd say there's a direct connection and good reason. I'm happy to talk to any and all students, especially if they call me.. I don't want to use up my minutes! Twisted Evil
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Poker



Joined: 16 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP is taking this way too seriously..........changing number?? lol.......... (o.0) .................... after a year or two in Korea, you will look back at this and laugh it off Smile
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:

I think your best course of action is to simply pack your bags and go home.

End of problem.


+1

Poker wrote:

OP is taking this way too seriously..........changing number?? lol.......... (o.0) .................... after a year or two in Korea, you will look back at this and laugh it off Smile


That is, if the OP doesn't have a nervous breakdown first.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it so compelling that you must answer every person that calls you? There isn't much she can do unless you enter the dance floor. Remember, it takes 2 to tango.

Oh my god, someone got my number and they are trying to sell me something. I must change my number now!! oh no. No, just don't answer calls from people you don't know.
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DeLaRed



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if someone is calling constantly just block their number.....
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
I teach girls high school. My phone number is blatantly listed, with the phone numbers of ALL teachers in the offices around the school.

I'd say about 80% of the girls in my high school have my phone number.

Number of text messages I've gotten in the last year: 3.
Number of phone calls: 0.

The other male teachers at my school get calls from their students all the time. The students call the teachers whenever they have a problem at school OR AT HOME.

I actually want my students to ave my number so they have someone to call if they are in trouble. Domestic violence is a real thing, and I've seen some students who got thrown around by their parents for bringing home a B+ instead of an A.


I have to support this 100%. My school gave my number out against my wishes, and at first I was a bit miffed. But guess what? I got no phone calls and a couple msgs about an assignment being due.

In my current school all the juniors and seniors have my number. I have their numbers. I haven't gotten a phone call yet...I am the one who ends up msging them in relation to school events or activities.

OP you are WAY too paranoid. Seriously. There is no witch hunt in Korea like there is in the West against people who communicate with students outside school.
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I have to agree its not a big deal at all. In fact I think some of the times my students txt me, its actually at their grandparents or parents wishes, or the students are trying to impress them. Because when I ask them whose ph they are using, when the number is unknown to me. It has always been a parents or grandparents phone.

I still get txted around exam time from an ex student, like eveyones said she's just wanting reassurance and possibly a relaxed adult to briefly contact who isn't grummpy or demanding.

If you do make a big deal out of this, its you that are going to come off as the 'weird' one not the student
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aske wrote:
tanklor1 wrote:
I agree the problems that you'll face over here are going to be so different than what you're used to: based mainly on the two little facts: 1. This culture is not the same and 2. basic communication is sometimes hard to pull off.


I don't think this is a cultural issue at all, especially when I'm judged based on perceptions of my own culture and status. I'm not Korean and as such wouldn't expect to be treated as if I were Korean.

I don't have an issue with cultural differences insofar as they actually are mere cultural differences: taking my shoes off at the door, bowing for greetings, etc. Just as I don't think 'cultural differences' should be a reason to ignore potential problems in a contract (after all, it's just 'culture' that contracts don't have the same social force as they do in the west), I also don't think 'cultural differences' is any kind of argument for why a student should have my phone number. There is no good reason for it.


No, my dude, this is exactly a clash of cultures. You just don't see it yet.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
OP you are WAY too paranoid. Seriously. There is no witch hunt in Korea like there is in the West against people who communicate with students outside school.


Seriously. Remember that this is a place where it's tacitly encouraged to have your entire kinder class sitting in your lap at any given time. They're not going to worry about some girl having your number.
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Morticae



Joined: 06 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
Mr. Pink wrote:
OP you are WAY too paranoid. Seriously. There is no witch hunt in Korea like there is in the West against people who communicate with students outside school.


Seriously. Remember that this is a place where it's tacitly encouraged to have your entire kinder class sitting in your lap at any given time. They're not going to worry about some girl having your number.


Day 1 of my middle school:
Head Co-Teacher: "Some students want to see where you live. Please take them home with you after school today."

Things are a bit different here, definitely cultural.
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