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Anyone ever worked or is currently working for SLP- Gangbuk?

 
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mtfirefly



Joined: 01 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Anyone ever worked or is currently working for SLP- Gangbuk? Reply with quote

I just got a job offer today for SLP Gangbuk in Seoul. I've been reading some of the other threads and yeah there have been a lot of bad things said about SLP in general. SLP however is a chain so each school is different and I want to get a more objective opinion from someone who perhaps has worked at Gangbuk or works there now? I hope someone out there can help me make an educated decision. thanks in advance!
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SLP=Slave Labor Program

Razz
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mtfirefly



Joined: 01 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramen wrote:
SLP=Slave Labor Program

Razz


again i want something more useful than "Slave Labor Program"
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtfirefly wrote:
Ramen wrote:
SLP=Slave Labor Program

Razz


again i want something more useful than "Slave Labor Program"


OK... The devil is in the details. READ THE CONTRACT.

You are scheduled for 21 classes of 80 minutes (with a 10 minute mid class break that you are expected to stay in the class for).
Works out to about 1680-1800 minutes PER WEEK in the classroom.

The guy at the next hakwon (making the same money that you do) works 30 classes of 50 minutes (1500 minutes per week standing in front of his classes).

That means that you will work somewhere between 180-300 minutes (3-5 hours) MORE per week for the same money (150-250 more hours per year for free).

You WON'T get NHIC or NPS in-spite of what the contract says (you will be classed as a "contractor" even though your contract clearly calls you an employee. You will pay twice the tax that you should (3.3% as compared to 1.6%) for the same reason.

SLP = slave labor program (and I have known many who worked for different SLP franchises (including that one)).

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True_Blue



Joined: 25 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked for a different SLP. What ttompatz said is mostly true. You work more than average hours at SLP. My SLP did sign me up for NHIC and for pension but didn't pay them properly. They told the pension service my salary was 1.1 million won a month for full time work. This way they could underpay the matching pension amount. They also wouldn't pay severance until 45 days after contract completion. They are mostly franchises so check around but generally I would avoid them.
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The Grumpy Senator



Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Up and down the 6 line

PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:

OK... The devil is in the details. READ THE CONTRACT.

You are scheduled for 21 classes of 80 minutes (with a 10 minute mid class break that you are expected to stay in the class for).
Works out to about 1680-1800 minutes PER WEEK in the classroom.

The guy at the next hakwon (making the same money that you do) works 30 classes of 50 minutes (1500 minutes per week standing in front of his classes).

That means that you will work somewhere between 180-300 minutes (3-5 hours) MORE per week for the same money (150-250 more hours per year for free).

You WON'T get NHIC or NPS in-spite of what the contract says (you will be classed as a "contractor" even though your contract clearly calls you an employee. You will pay twice the tax that you should (3.3% as compared to 1.6%) for the same reason.

SLP = slave labor program (and I have known many who worked for different SLP franchises (including that one)).

.


Here is my experience at an SLP. Again, mine, not a friend or something I read.

21 classes of 80 minutes is accurate, however we were not required to stay in our classroom during the break.

I was not classified as a contractor and had a medical card withing a few weeks (used many times) and I collected my full pension at the end of my 3 years at this SLP. Taxes were at 1.6%.

ttompatz is a great resource for information on this site. However, this post is an overgeneralization of SLPs. They are seperately owned and operated, mine was owned by a member of the Board of Directors of Sogang University and a very respected man in the community. Everything was on the level. In fact, part of my job was to make sure there were no issues like the ones described by ttompatz above. Do your research and choose based on people that have worked at the location, not stories on the internet.
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mtfirefly



Joined: 01 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: SLP replies Reply with quote

Well thanks for your input guys, somewhat helpful...then again somewhat not.
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mtfirefly



Joined: 01 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:42 am    Post subject: Working for an SLP Reply with quote

I started this thread when I was offered a job at SLP in Gangbuk. Someone replied to my thread saying they had worked for this specific school but I don't see how that's possible due to the fact that the school just opened this year.

Anyway, I am now working for the SLP in Gangbuk and so far things are going well. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a "slave labor program" but I suppose that opinion depends greatly on an individuals attitude. I like my job. Some people have had so s*** experiences at SLP schools but they're all different. You can't compare one school to another because they're NOT the same.
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mtfirefly



Joined: 01 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:07 am    Post subject: *** UPDATE working at SLP *** Reply with quote

I figured it would be helpful for people who are cruising through the forum to update this thread on my experience with SLP.

I think I was exceptionally lucky that things worked out the way they did. I read a lot of horror stories about people who worked for SLP and just had the worst time with them. I am happy to report that that is not the case for me.

I've now been working at this SLP for almost 8 months now and I have been very pleased with it. From day one, my director has been extremely helpful in getting my situated with everything I need. She helped me set up cable/internet in my apartment and she set me up with a Korean bank account. The school has always paid me in full and on time every month. Also, they give me a detailed statement every month telling me was is being deducted from my paycheck and why. My supervisor (aka head teacher) is very helpful and not once treated me badly. The same goes for my Korean co-workers. I had the incredible luck that they have all lived in westernized places before and so were use to foreigners. They've never spoken badly to me, ignored me, or made fun of me. In addition, I have not worked "slave" hours and so many have stated in the forums. I work 40 hours a week, but my actual teaching hours averages just under 30 hours.

My SLP seems to be exceptional due to the great people who work here and the people who own the school. Since the school is new, we probably don't have as many students as other SLP's so thats likely why I have so few classes. (Plus the school isn't that big to begin with.)

My only advice to people who are considering working for SLP and are unsure is to keep in mind that they're all different. Don't swear them all off just because you read some bad stories. I can't promise your experience will be as good as mine but its worth considering. Just from talking with other teachers, (none who work for SLP) working for hagwons is kinda a crap shoot. So, do your research, talk to people and hopefully you can land yourself a good job. Good Luck!
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