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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.
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I'm not sure if my friend did the talk program. I can still do it right (illegaly)? haha...
What is "Talk"? and if I make $1500 will that be enough to be in Seoul while I'm there and do they offer a place to stay? |
You can. And then get fined and deported for doing it.
TALK is this - http://www.talk.go.kr/ You will likely be out in the sticks. $1500 is plenty to live on. Yes, from the website it looks like you get 'personal' accommodation or homestay. |
OP. Be careful of TALK. There's a few TALK people out in rural schools around my school. Do you really want to be way out in the sticks, where the school uses goats as garbage disposal?
You've been warned. |
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mimi belle
Joined: 11 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Your options with a degree are very different from your options without one. You need a degree to teach. So your friend must have graduated, correct? A tesol/tefl certificate wont help you unless you already have a degree. The TALK program is an option if you haven't finished.
You might want to consider something like junior year abroad instead.
Or transferring to another college. California has so many, I'm sure you could find one you like. |
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saiga
Joined: 25 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| mimi belle wrote: |
Your options with a degree are very different from your options without one. You need a degree to teach. So your friend must have graduated, correct? A tesol/tefl certificate wont help you unless you already have a degree. The TALK program is an option if you haven't finished.
You might want to consider something like junior year abroad instead.
Or transferring to another college. California has so many, I'm sure you could find one you like. |
My friend came back this year to L.A. to finish his studies. He had no experience or qualifications when he left except maybe some volunteer work etc. I absolutely made sure of this when he told me about his experience.
I found this old thread. It seems many people do it the way I am thinking of doing it. The problem is "illegal" or "legal". I know one is "right" and the other "wrong" but I don't mind doing it the "wrong" way as long as I can get away with it. You don't get anywhere with out connections. I would've really liked to hear from someone who has done this a similar way.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=4997&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
I decided I am just going to go with the flow and see what happens. I emailed the recruiter my photo and resume. If I'm missing something or don't qualify etc. then she should be the first to tell me right? Or if I somehow start getting interviews - I'll be rejected. Gotta learn somehow.
I am currently learning Chinese, Korean, and Japanese. I heard that China does not require anything? I wouldn't mind going there either. If anyone has info on going there or if you could direct me to information about it...please let me know.
I feel like the main issue is legality. Some people are telling me I can't do it yet, others are doing it. I'm willing to take a risk. That's how bad I want to leave L.A. |
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fugitive chicken
Joined: 20 Apr 2010
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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OP,
Sure, you CAN technically work illegally and some people do and don't get caught, however some people also do get caught. In my opinion, the consequences in my opinion aren't worth it. You will be fined a lot of money (most likely in the couple of thousands of dollars) AND be deported if you are caught. Immigration looks for illegal workers.
I suggest just leaving LA. Your not stuck there, transfer to a different school, do a year off traveling or do Teach for America for a year. Working illegally in Korea isn't worth it. You also wouldnt easily be able to get anything in your name like a cell phone, internet, or a bank account. You need to be legal to function properly here. |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:00 am Post subject: |
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It's advise, not advice (pertaining to the subject header). You don't advice people. |
Nothing wrong with that at all. She is asking for advice, she is not in a position to advise.
I suppose she could say 'I would hope someone on here could advise me..' but most people would say 'I hope to get some good advice' (or any other variant of that) |
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saiga
Joined: 25 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| wiganer wrote: |
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| Please throw all your advice at me. |
It's advise, not advice (pertaining to the subject header). You don't advice people. |
Nothing wrong with that at all. She is asking for advice, she is not in a position to advise.
I suppose she could say 'I would hope someone on here could advise me..' but most people would say 'I hope to get some good advice' (or any other variant of that) |
I'm a guy >_<
And I don't really care about the grammar troll (lol).
If it were up to me, I would've said "clarify all this shit for me".
"Advice me" or "advise me" probably sounds weird to some people.
Maybe this is an American way of talking? Who cares... |
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saiga
Joined: 25 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| fugitive chicken wrote: |
OP,
Sure, you CAN technically work illegally and some people do and don't get caught, however some people also do get caught. In my opinion, the consequences in my opinion aren't worth it. You will be fined a lot of money (most likely in the couple of thousands of dollars) AND be deported if you are caught. Immigration looks for illegal workers.
I suggest just leaving LA. Your not stuck there, transfer to a different school, do a year off traveling or do Teach for America for a year. Working illegally in Korea isn't worth it. You also wouldnt easily be able to get anything in your name like a cell phone, internet, or a bank account. You need to be legal to function properly here. |
Like I said, I'll just go with the flow and see what the recruiter says.
You don't understand...I don't want to "teach for America". I live in LA and I am tired of it and the States in general. If it isn't NY, LA, SF, LAS VEGAS...don't bother coming to the States. That's my opinion. Also, in LA I am able to have better paying jobs then a teacher. I work in music industry. Anyway, I'm only willing to teach in Korea, China, or Japan because those are the languages I am currently studying. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Once you finish your degree, you should be able to teach in any of those countries.
Don't be a fool, stay in school. |
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saiga
Joined: 25 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Once you finish your degree, you should be able to teach in any of those countries.
Don't be a fool, stay in school. |
I could probably qualify....Associate of Arts Degree in English?
Would that be good enough? |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| wiganer wrote: |
| lifeinkorea wrote: |
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| Please throw all your advice at me. |
It's advise, not advice (pertaining to the subject header). You don't advice people. |
Nothing wrong with that at all. She is asking for advice, she is not in a position to advise.
I suppose she could say 'I would hope someone on here could advise me..' but most people would say 'I hope to get some good advice' (or any other variant of that) |
The title asked people to "advice her" as in she needed people to advise her. |
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saiga
Joined: 25 Oct 2010
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Associate of Arts Degree in English?
what can i do with this...
good enough?
****please, i get it. you're all english teachers or good at english.
don't troll on the thread please. i'm not here to correct or bash on peoples
use of the English language. I just want information. **** |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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You'd be surprised at how many people teaching ESL here are horrible writers. If you plan on using this forum, get used to this sort of thing.
Don't do the TALK program unless you want to live out in the boonies.
Don't come here to do illegal lessons. It isn't worth it. Finish your BA and decide then.
If you must teach now, then try China, but even they are starting to demand more, with the influx of economic refugees. Be warned. |
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saiga
Joined: 25 Oct 2010
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 is there anything else i can do besides teaching....
I think I might qualify for this...
Associate of Arts Degree in English?
Would that be good enough to help me teach abroad? |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| In China probably, but you'd have to search. Best of luck! |
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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| saiga wrote: |
is there anything else i can do besides teaching....
I think I might qualify for this...
Associate of Arts Degree in English?
Would that be good enough to help me teach abroad? |
NO YOU NEED A BA. JUST HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO BE TOLD THIS BEFORE YOU WILL STOP ASKING???? |
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