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ulmaeri
Joined: 26 Sep 2007
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 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: PC Help |
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My PC died on me and I wanted to pick the brains of our resident geeks. The PC turns on, the fans spin, CD drives spin, but no video. I changed to a CRT and still nothing. Running a Radeon 4860. Think this rules out harddrive problems, and leaves me with bad motherboard or video card. No beeps, so I am left with those two.
Any other suggestions? |
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excaza
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Though fried mobo/GPU is more likely, it could also be bad RAM. Some motherboards won't even POST if there's something wrong with the RAM.
Does your motherboard have an integrated video card? |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| When you turn it on do you hear any beeps at all? |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| No beeps is usually a motherboard problem. |
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ulmaeri
Joined: 26 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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ATI Radeon Video card. No onboard video. Just realized that if there was onboard, that would be a good way to test if it was mobo or video card.
Any good recommendations on mobos? I had a Intel P5Q Pro in it with a Quad cpu. I forget the speed. I'll look around to see if I have it somewhere.
Thanks for the help. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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You can get very good motherboards using the P35 or P45 chipsets for 80-130,000.
I've been using the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R for 4 years now without a single problem........considering how much I've messed about with it and the fact that its been running virtually 24/7 all 4 years........ that's pretty amazing. |
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[email protected]
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: check your pm |
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jackdaniels
Joined: 13 Feb 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:37 am Post subject: mobo |
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If you can change the mobo yourself go for a p35/p45.
Always use Gigabyte or ASUS! |
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ulmaeri
Joined: 26 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the advice. I am probably going to be taking it into the shop that I had build it for me. Have them change out the mobo for me and see if it runs. That way I am able to buy new parts as needed. I don't want to bring a new mobo home and find out that CPU is dead too.
I am comfortable working on the PC, just that I don't like to touch the CPU. Don't trust that I will do the thermal paste right when attaching the heatsink.
On a side note. Anyone know where I can find IDE 2.5" drives? I have an old Dell gaming laptop that only needs a new adapter and a bigger drive. Runs hot but still handles a lot of normal tasks well. Only have 60GB in there now. Looking for something in the 100GB+ range. |
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vDroop
Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| I highly doubt it's the motherboard from what you've said. A computer with a dead mobo usually just does nothing at all when you hit the power button. But since you have no spare parts around to test, yeah I'd take it into a shop. |
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hallazgo
Joined: 22 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| ulmaeri wrote: |
Thanks for the advice. I am probably going to be taking it into the shop that I had build it for me. Have them change out the mobo for me and see if it runs. That way I am able to buy new parts as needed. I don't want to bring a new mobo home and find out that CPU is dead too.
I am comfortable working on the PC, just that I don't like to touch the CPU. Don't trust that I will do the thermal paste right when attaching the heatsink.
On a side note. Anyone know where I can find IDE 2.5" drives? I have an old Dell gaming laptop that only needs a new adapter and a bigger drive. Runs hot but still handles a lot of normal tasks well. Only have 60GB in there now. Looking for something in the 100GB+ range. |
I'd change the mobo AND CPU and get new RAM, too. My money says the mobo is fried, although "dead" doesn't always mean no acttivity at all. And the heat sink/paste thing is really no big deal. Just a layer like you'd smear mayonaise on a sandwich.
I've found 2.5" ide drives on a million websites. Have a Korean buy it for you as most
sites won't accept your foreigner ID number. 75K ought get a decent drive delivered. |
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noky
Joined: 14 Jul 2010
Location: Yeongcheon
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| vDroop wrote: |
| I highly doubt it's the motherboard from what you've said. A computer with a dead mobo usually just does nothing at all when you hit the power button. But since you have no spare parts around to test, yeah I'd take it into a shop. |
This -- although there is the chance a part of the board could've failed rendering it something of a zombie board that starts up but can't actually work.
It's hard to troubleshoot without spare parts.
I'd try pulling out the RAM and turning it on and see if you can get the motherboard to make some noise.
The fastest course of action is to take it to a shop since you're pretty limited in what you can test and you're clearly going to need a new something.
Depending on the age and what you need a computer for, it might be about time to retire the thing. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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A mobo can still send power to all the components yet not post.....so fans and stuff could turn but data channels don't work.
I know because this exact situation happened to me last month.
I scratched my new GA-890GPA-UD3H with a screwdriver while putting on the CPU cooler.......everything powered up but no post......I narrowed it down to the CPU and mobo........then I had to do the scary technique of turning on the PC with only a finger on the CPU.....if the CPU heats up quickly then you know it's probably okay and the mobo is the problem. But you need to get the power off quick!
A Gigabyte engineer was able to fix the disrupted data channel with some kind of glue-like substance. |
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eddiebaby
Joined: 13 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hi guys,
I seem to be having exactly the same problem. Does anybody know of a trustworthy place to take comp to to get it fixed?
Cheers |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| eddiebaby wrote: |
Hi guys,
I seem to be having exactly the same problem. Does anybody know of a trustworthy place to take comp to to get it fixed?
Cheers |
Depends if the computer is still under warranty or not. If it's under warranty then bring it back to the vendor.
If it's out of warranty then try to identify if the problem is with the motherboard or something else. No beeps usually means the mobo is kaput.
If fans spin then the power supply is still working.
Take out the motherboard, identify the manufacturer, and take it to their nearest A/S center......which is likely in Yongsan. |
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