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ATM SPIDERTAO
Joined: 05 Jul 2009
Location: seoul, south korea
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lol so here's a question
i just realized today i can't go on highways with my bike! there goes visiting my gf out in incheon
what determines if a "highway" is a non-motorcycle highway??
is it if the speed is 80km/h?
is it if there's a toll booth?
if ANYONE happens to know, can i ride from Ansan to Incheon? i would probably take the same route the bus takes haha
wanna get the most out of my purchase!
i'm going bike shopping tomorrow... but sadly with a teacher who isn't my coteacher. my coteacher can take me on monday. which is too long of a wait lolz i finally got my license and wanna upgrade from my 50cc piece of crap.
how exactly does the registration work though? i can't drive my bike to city hall right? i've gotta get the paperwork to city hall, and then go back to the bike shop and then i can ride my bike? lol seems rather tedious
also, the steering is completely messed up with my old scooter. it prolly dropped one too many times cuz it fell during the night about 3-4 times and last time, i slipped during the typhoon. will the old guy even buy it back? how much can i trade it in for? 50,000won?
anyway, i don't really mind looking like a korean highschool boy. cuz frankly, that's EXACTLY what i look like anyway
most people address me as "hak saing" on the street... i guess it could make sense cuz i'm only like 3 years out of university but whatever =/ |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| If there's a tollbooth, often you won't be let through. There are some exceptions on some of the smaller toll highways, but it seems to depend on who's in the booth. Expressways definitely no bikes. |
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v88
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Location: here
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I honestly don't know, there doesn't actually seem to be anything wrong with it so maybe I should just not worry?
I just kind of meant the sorts of things perhaps a more knowledgeable/experienced bike owner would do themselves on a semi-regular basis. Perhaps, as you say, have the carb cleaned, spark plugs checked. |
First you should be able to give you bike a good inspection on your own.
- Anything loose or rattling should be fixed. The most important things to look at would be the head set and the wheels (especially the rear wheel as it is designed to be moved back and forth to accomodate for chain stretch)
- Is oil leaking from the shocks? If so, you may need to replace the seals
- Is the chain rusty, overly dirty, dry, stretched or are any of the links sticking?. Chains need regular care (i.e regular oil...very regular, especially if it has been raining) and you do not want your chain to fail while riding down the highway. A sure sign that it has worn out is noise. Chains will make noise when they have been stretched too much and should be replaced ASAP. Although some chain stretch is expected and can be remedied by tightening it (pulling the rear wheel back).
- Change the oil, use a reasonable synthetic oil. Examine your oil for 3 things. Take off the oil cap and examine how much oil is in the bike and look for white stuff on the inside of the cap. This is water and might mean a blown gasket somewhere. Next, look at the dip stick, burnt oil on the dip stick means the bike has been running too hot and could mean their is a rad problem (this could be something easily fixed with a rad flush or a new water pump). Last drain the oil and look for metal flecks in the oil. This could be little engine bits or transmission bits...both expensive repairs to be aware of.
- Change the spark plugs. If they are covered in grey powder (carbon) tune or clean the carbs. If they are covered in black oil...you might need to replace the head gasket or rebuild the engine (expensive, so given the age of your bike, try to keep her running as long as possible before you attack this problem - if a mechanic is willing to do a compression test for you you can check to see if the engine is OK or if its just a blown gasket...a blown gasket is a good thing to get done as it will help your bike run longer and isn't as expensive as a complete rebuild)
- Change your rad fluid. The guy who owned my bike before me used water and cost me a blown head gasket during the winter. Rust in you rad fluid might also mean your rad is shizen or your water pump is crapped out. Ask your mechanic to check your water pump regardless, it isn't that expensive and will help your bike live a longer life. A rad flush might also be in order, but I'm not too sure K-mechanics know what the hell this is. I used to do this back home all the time, but it is messy. If you can't get proper rad flush, hot water pumped throught the rad will have to do. Read up on this before you undertake it yourself.
- Check your brake pads, do you have any left? Do not leave this till you are scraping the disks with the pad hangers...not good. You can also ask the mechanic to clean the brake pistons. They can get gunked up and stick. This should also reveal if your piston gaskets are still good.
- Change your brake fluid and check the lines for cracks. If they are cracked, replace them. Make sure your mechanic bleeds the brakes after, if he doesn't you might have an unexpected moment without brakes later on...scary.
- Check your battery, there is a little window on it, Green means good, black means bad. Check battery leads for corrosion. Dirty leads might mean you suddenly can't get her going. Can be easily cleaned with Coke (yep, strips all the nasty stuff right off...imagine what it does to your guts). |
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v88
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Location: here
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| SNOTOSEOUL wrote: |
So I have a Honda/Daelim Citi bike 100 (the red and white ones the delivery guys use)
The bike wont shift and the clutch has gone limp and falls forward or backwards instead of up/down shifting.
What is the problem and how much will this cost to fix? |
Could be as simple as a clutch cable, but I'm not real knowledgable about this bike. I thought these things were semi auto. Could be something wrong with the lever or it could be a big problem with the transmission. Not sure. |
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v88
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Location: here
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ATM SPIDERTAO wrote: |
lol so here's a question
i just realized today i can't go on highways with my bike! there goes visiting my gf out in incheon
what determines if a "highway" is a non-motorcycle highway??
is it if the speed is 80km/h?
is it if there's a toll booth?
if ANYONE happens to know, can i ride from Ansan to Incheon? i would probably take the same route the bus takes haha
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You can ride on a highway, but not an expressway (motorway) these are clearly marked on maps and sometimes clearly marked on the roadway (sometimes you don't know it's an expressway until you are on the on ramp...).
DO NOT take you 125 on the expressway...that is not only illegal but may get you killed. A 250...go ahead break the law.
Expressways have toll booths on them.
You can go to Incheon on highway 42 which goes past the east side of Ansan. Be careful with a 125 on the highway, they do not have the power to safely manage 80km/h traffic (yes, they can hit 100km/h hour...but they are guttless) |
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ATM SPIDERTAO
Joined: 05 Jul 2009
Location: seoul, south korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:36 am Post subject: |
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damn awesome posts here helping me out
v88, thanks a bunch man
so even though it looks like a really fast sportsbike, the 125cc sportsbike looking bikes are only made to LOOK like a fast bike but isn't gonna let me traverse 80km/h in a confident manner? haha dang now i wish i went for the 125cc and above motorcycling license instead. i saw a really nice 250cc hyosung comet when i was shopping today for under 2million won. it looked pretty good to be honest
haha i went ahead and paid a deposit on the yamuda hahaha. i had to go with a co teacher who isn't even my co-teacher and i didn't wanna trouble her any more. and we went to like 5 different bike shops and none of them had any of the stuff you guys posted about. i figure i'm only gonna be driving this thing for like 8 months anyway so as long as it doesn't break down, i'm ok. and buying from a dealer is great cuz it comes with after service
so how often should i bring it into the shop? after a certain number of kilometers? i'm getting a new batter, new engine oil and fluids and stuff and a new rear wheel
gonna pick it up tomorrow after work!
got it for 1.5mil, including the 30,000won i'm getting for my old 50cc broken bike that you can't drive haha and a 60,000won helmet. the kind that has the chin protector that you can move up and down as well as a visor. not TOO bad. craigslist had 125cc similar bikes for about 1.2 mil but they weren't around my city and i feel an extra few hundred for knowing i can service the thing for free and it's got the registration and all that crap is a more secure method. |
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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Hey guys,
I'm going back to Canada tomorrow for a month or so before returning to Korea. It just occurred to me that now would be the perfect time to get my motorcycle license in Canada then come back here and get it transferred over. Unfortunately, it looks like there will be no motorcycle safety courses during my time home (they will start up again next Spring) so I won't be able to get a full license. Even if there were courses, you have to wait three months between getting the graduated license and getting your full license anyway.
That being said, I'll probably have some kind of graduated license.
Do you think they'll care about that if I try to switch it over to get a proper motorcycle license in Korea? Can they tell if it is only a graduated license or not? Thanks. |
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joesp
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I rode for 10 minutes in kangnam and I'm still alive! |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| Stalin84 wrote: |
Hey guys,
I'm going back to Canada tomorrow for a month or so before returning to Korea. It just occurred to me that now would be the perfect time to get my motorcycle license in Canada then come back here and get it transferred over. Unfortunately, it looks like there will be no motorcycle safety courses during my time home (they will start up again next Spring) so I won't be able to get a full license. Even if there were courses, you have to wait three months between getting the graduated license and getting your full license anyway.
That being said, I'll probably have some kind of graduated license.
Do you think they'll care about that if I try to switch it over to get a proper motorcycle license in Korea? Can they tell if it is only a graduated license or not? Thanks. |
Korea will not give you a MC license without taking the Korean MC road test. Having a foreign car or MC license will get you equal Korean licenses. |
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v88
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Location: here
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Rookie riders,
Go to this site and down load the periodic maintenance chart from this site:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/kmrkorea/files/
For the complete file go to scribd.com, upload a file so that you can have access to downloads and download:
Hyosung service manuals, workshop manuals and owners manuals.
They are pretty good for basic Korean bike maintenance and have similar information as other manufacturer's manuals (for things like basic maintenance).
You can also find manuals for other bikes as well as the Complete Idiot's Guide to Motorcycles. |
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Stalin84
Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Location: Haebangchon, Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
| Stalin84 wrote: |
Hey guys,
I'm going back to Canada tomorrow for a month or so before returning to Korea. It just occurred to me that now would be the perfect time to get my motorcycle license in Canada then come back here and get it transferred over. Unfortunately, it looks like there will be no motorcycle safety courses during my time home (they will start up again next Spring) so I won't be able to get a full license. Even if there were courses, you have to wait three months between getting the graduated license and getting your full license anyway.
That being said, I'll probably have some kind of graduated license.
Do you think they'll care about that if I try to switch it over to get a proper motorcycle license in Korea? Can they tell if it is only a graduated license or not? Thanks. |
Korea will not give you a MC license without taking the Korean MC road test. Having a foreign car or MC license will get you equal Korean licenses. |
Maybe I'll just go the hagwon/road test route. After some research, it would seem that getting one's license in Korea is actually easier than in their home country. I always thought it was the other way around.
In my home province (with a car license):
-Written Test + Safety Course = Graduated "Learner" License.
-Full license between 3-6 months after Learner License.
That's a lot of waiting. In Korea I can get the full license in under a month if I play my cards right! |
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v88
Joined: 28 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| Getting your license here is pretty easy overall but it doesn't teach you how to ride at all. Taking a course at home would really benefit you. I've never taken one and am a self taught rider here and I can say from many close calls and on the street learning, I would do it differently if I were to do it again. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:01 am Post subject: |
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On expressways...
If you accidently end up on one, don't panic....in fact, I drove on them regularly in Seoul for some parts....just ideally ones without tollbooths...
If you want to ride regularly on expressways, you gotta scout your path to make sure it's tollbooth free and with no checkpoints or highway patrol men(look to see if cops are on the side during the evenings). A large part of the gangbyeon expressway is good for example.... itaewon to Konkuk.....I think I did Hongdae to Konkuk a few times just fine....
If you do hit a tollbooth....just go through slowly...look confused and lost....they will scream at you....drive away...there is no cop waiting on the side. I've driven through many...more on that later. Try not to make a habit of this on the same tollbooth.
Rarely....there is a cop checkpoint(evenings) or a highway patrol man....do pull over and act like a confused, dumb ass foreigner. Your lack of license plate in my experience isn't as big a factor as you think....one cop chewed me out....the others just waved me off friendly-like. ymmv
I have a funny feeling that cops don't know foreigners can get a license....I've only had one cop negatively mention it...
WHAT happens if you blow through 3-4 tollbooths and I-pass consecutively on a motorcycle
I've done this.....eventually they call in ahead and the tollbooth guys jump your ass off your bike(literally, an adjumma grabbed me from the booth and grabbed my bike followed by a bunch of other dudes coming out a building)....
There weren't any cops....just toll booth officials....I played stupid...they just told me to get off the road and if I did it again, they'd call the cops...
Fairly nice guys...no red tape....I assume it was pretty exciting for a dull job....
If you commute alot in Seoul, I think it's worth the risk to scout out some decent expressway paths....I'd try to get registered first if possible in case you one day meet officer hard ass...
Just make sure to scan the entrances to expressways for long lines of cars....sometimes it's traffic....sometimes it's a highway police checkpoint....look for the cop before jumping on any expressway.
Lastly....
There is no Korean "state police" or trooper division...Aside from some cop on the side of the highway, you won't run into any smokies looking to bust speeders. You will get attention for not having a helmet though... |
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joesp
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| my daily close call today was getting passed on the sidewalk when I was looking left to merge onto the road at the crosswalk, and this delivery motorcycle guy passed me and cut me off when I was trying to go through those things that keep cars off sidewalks. Whew@ when you least expect it. Like, what is up with that anyways. Trying to save 0.25 seconds as we race to the light or what ... |
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joesp
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| when a car beeps at you it means "good job! I saw that! fantastic maneuver!" |
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